by Cold Steel 15 Replies latest watchtower bible
I think it would be really interesting to see a Mormon take on a JW.
I took on a Mormon when I was a pioneer. My bible study's sister was studying with a couple of Mormon missionaries and she set us up for a show-down at her house. I won by a knockout in the third round.
I won by a knockout in the third round.
Are you sure? I guess they are saying the same. For a certainty, your knockout didn't knock them all the way into the JW religion, and probably didn't even get them out of their own delusion.
who would want to?
I wouldn't say it was a knockout
But I had 2 LDS young men stop by to see my piano teacher's mother. They told me my bible was missing verses....I went and got her big black NWT bible which has them all in there. He got very angry and started saying bad words and his partner apologized and ushered him out the door.
My non-jw parent had a young couple newly joined to LDS who came over. I asked them if they realized that according to LDS teaching that God never intended Adam and Eve to live forever on earth, it was only a testing ground. That is why God gave them 2 conflicting laws, become many and multiple but not eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and bad (knowledge of sexual union).
They were stunned....somehow that teaching had never been covered with them and it disturbed them. Kept my non-jw parent from joining the LDS.
I lived for 4 years in an area where 3 out 4 were LDS including the schools I attended. I learned a lot a lunch time.
Thanks for your replies. The reason I wanted to ask believers is because they'd give me answers not laced with resentment or colored by their own negative experiences. These questions have nothing to do with my own beliefs, but everything to do with ecclesiastical authority. While reading some of the Watchtowers on JW.org, the writers cited Daniel 2 and the some that broke the statue.
The magazines also condemned other religions, calling them manmade. The truth to the weary traveler who's lost his way comes from the helpful person (WTS) who shows the traveler a map (Bible), shows him the way, then gives him the map so he can refer to it in his travels.
The roots of the WTS go back to Adventism and William Miller. I'm not really concerned whether their predictions are true or not, what the Watchtower states indicates the Society is the ecclesiastical continuation of the first century church.
My question simply centers on how the Organization received this authority and if I were an investigator, how I could be certain it was the stone? Most ex-JWs would probably admit the authority was assumed, but only a believer could tell me what's going on in his/her mind regarding the organization's legitimacy.
Regarging my own beliefs, I've never made them a part of my arguments on this forum. If you want to debate the merits of Mormonism, there's an excellent and existing website for that.
Catholics and the Orthodox claim an uninterrupted chain of authority from the first century church. If the WTS now has that authority, how did it get it? And if I started a church with the same basic beliefs with some much needed tweaks, and if I called God Jehovah, used the King James bible with "Jehovah" inserted where "Lord" is, sent members door to door, would my church be as legitimate as theirs? What if I said Jehovah came down and chose my religion over theirs? How would their church be more legitimate than mine? These are legitimate questions that ex-members might not be inclined to answer.
But go to it!
