would you be more happy not knowing what you now know?

by ExBethelitenowPIMA 196 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  slimboyfat

  
  
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  “Okay tell me even one book you have studied on evolutionary biology. Even one. Doesn't have to be complicated one.”

  Cofty as I have said many times I don’t remember one of the many books I read based on one of Darwin’s chance theorists that said in the blurb “this book covers biological evolution”

  they all just say evolution

  
  

  I don’t know why you put so much emphasis on a book that has to come under specialist biological evolution. There are many good books on evolution that don’t specifically say that.

  There are so many theories now of chance as the origin. One theory even supposed that the universe created itself. I don’t know if this comes under chance or intelligently designed 🤣
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  cofty

  Ex-B = what are you on about? You are tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting your deception.

  Name one book you have read that presents the scientific evidence for the common ancestry of life. It's a really simple question.

  I have no interest in diversions into geology or origin of the universe or abiogenesis. Please stop changing the topic.

  You can believe in god without hiding behind wilful ignorance of the most basic truths of science.
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  I think it is you who are tying yourself up in knots

  I do understand it to an extent with your past beliefs

  I think you will eventually come to the realisation that you will never know the entire truth about this as I have.

  I am comfortable knowing that anyone who claims to know the truth about the origin of the universe is probably wrong

  And that what you are so sure about at present may not be as clear cut as you think now

  all the best in your journey
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  cofty

  Are you agnostic about whether or not the earth is flat? If not why not?
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  Cofty “You are tying yourself in knots to avoid admitting your deception.”

  How could my beliefs be deception when I have said time and time again that I am agnostic?

  You seem to think that agnostics deny chance theory? This is simply not true. We just haven’t yet found absolute proof of chance yet, all evidence so far can also be used to point towards intelligence having been involved. Hence why I’m agnostic.

  Please don’t think I’m attacking your beliefs I certainly am not trying to force my beliefs on you and I hope you will give me the same respect
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  cofty3 minutes ago

  Are you agnostic about whether or not the earth is flat? If not why not

  
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  Not at all. My reasons for believing the earth is a globe are many. One of them being latitude and longitude would not work on flat earth. I know gps positioning does work in the Southern Hemisphere. The distance between Cape Horn and the cape of good hope is about 6000 nautical miles and takes about 59 days to sail if you cover just over 100 miles a day.

  I hope you are not going to keep asking me “have you read one book on flat earth, just one” because I really don’t want to waste my time.

  goodbye Cofty I haven’t got any more time for you and your funny beliefs
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  SydBarrett

  "I said if something is true it shouldn’t need an overly complex convoluted bullshit baffles brains book written about it."
  

  
  So, my college chemistry textbook could have been condensed into a paragraph?
  
  And calculus could have been presented in the form of a fortune cookie!
  
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  ExBethelitenowPIMA

  SB what are you talking about those subjects never rely on bullshit baffles brain’s techniques. They can be logical, clear and concise and not rely on people having faith to believe they are true.

  If something is true it doesn’t need over complex convoluted points that can be argued against.

  chemistry, calculus and any other deep subjects can be explained in clear concise ways that won’t have two groups of scientists having different views.

  A surprising number of scientists who discover just how amazing chemistry, biology etc are become convinced that there must have been design not chance. But still many scientists discovering the same things conclude it was chance
  
  
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  peacefulpete

  The opening question is the same as asking a reformed alcoholic if they think they might have made a mistake.