Moral indignation against "faders" shows JW apologists are morally bankrupt

slimboyfat

I came across this weird blog that castigates fading JWs for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning. Apparently in the view of this blogger JWs who discover it's not the truth are morally obliged to play by the Watchtower rules and face the consequences of shunning.

http://jwresearchblog.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/fading-faking-and-lying-as-unbelieving.html#comment-form

What is absent from the blog post is any discussion of the statement in the July 2009 Awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family. If JWs actually stuck by that statement there would be no such thing as faders and no moral dilemma to grapple with. The problematic situation is entirely of their own making, and the failure of JWs to stick by their own pronouncements against making people choose between beliefs and family. The moral deficiency is with the Watchtower and those who help implement its hypocritical stance toward those who realise the religion is faulty, not with those who are trying to extricate themselves in the least damaging way.

EdenOne

the statement in the July 2009 Awake!, that no one should be made to choose between their beliefs and their family.

Since when what was written in the JW publications has stopped any JW drone from mindlessly obey what the GB commands them to do? That statement obviously applies to OTHERS, not the JW's.

Take, for example, the statement that Knorr included on the book "Is This Life All there Is?":

"It is obvious that the true God, who is himself "the God of truth" and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. (Psalm 31:5; Proverbs 6:16-19; Revelation 21:8) And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?"

Tell me: How many JW's, even admitting that the Organization has taught wrong teachings in the past, will apply these words to themselves?

Eden

sparrowdown

The reality is a WT baptism is not binding in any way, shape or form and WT has no real authority over anyone.

Anders Andersen

Yeah, saw that piece of nonsense before and commented. Not published of course.

Commented again now: I love standing up for truth at least as much as you do.
So I was shocked when Jackson didn't stand up for truth before the ARC. <insert 'that would be presumptuous...' quote here>.

You never know what triggers the author's thinking...

dropoffyourkeylee

I've heard statements from JWs about apostates to the effect, "Why don't they just leave?" My answer to that is "Why are there repercussions from leaving?. I was baptized at age of 13, and as I reached adulthood I figured out it was all wrong. So why cannot I annul the baptism and just go on with my life without being treated like dirt?" Any contract involving a 13 year-old is not considered valid, so how can you hold an underage person accountable for life for getting baptized. They get them baptized at younger and younger ages now, it is simply wrong.

under the radar

I don't always agree with everything slimboyfat posts, but I'm with him 100% on this one.

After my mom passed away and my dad was grieving himself to death, on top of his other illnesses, my sister and other family began distancing themselves from me more and more. They wanted my dad to tell me not to call and visit so often, but he never did. Once, when my dad and sister and I were driving home from a doctor's appointment, this (then recent) Awake! article came up. I quoted it verbatim. My dad sat there in thoughtful silence, but my sister angrily shouted, "That doesn't apply to us! We have the Truth™!" I calmly replied that either it meant what it said, or it was blatant institutional hypocrisy. (Looking back, I wish I had used the word "brazen," but that wasn't an official Society buzz word back then.) Anyway, her jaws locked tighter than a vice!

We had to stop along the way to get Dad something to eat. My sister made a point of making sure I understood that this was an emergency and should not be construed as "sharing a meal." My dad just remained silent, with a rather sad look on his face.

About that same time, I gave Dad a copy of that Awake!, specifically asking him to read and reflect on that particular article. The next time I came to visit, I saw that magazine lying open on his coffee table and noticed that he had highlighted that very passage. "No one...should be made to choose between his beliefs and his family." I didn't comment and let him know I had seen it. Some things are better left unsaid.

On the following visit, that magazine was nowhere in sight. I strongly suspect that my sister took it. To my surprise, out of the blue my dad asked me if I had seen it. He had been looking for it! I helped him search for it, to no avail. I promised I'd bring him another on my next visit, which I did. I think he kept it out of sight, so my sister wouldn't take it again. Regardless, it was still among his possessions when he passed away about a year later.

nonjwspouse

Under the radar. That story about your Dad gave me a tear. He understood, but fear kept him from discussing it.

His actions were speaking louder than his words. Something I see as opposite of the practicing JWs, where the words spoken trump actions most of the time.

That was amazing how you were able to produce for him the comfort of what he knew in his heart was correct. His love for you and desire to see you was not wrong, his daughter was mind controlled. I can't imagine how he must have felt that he had a part in raising a daughter with that kind of mind control in her life. At her age he had no ability to "fix" that and he knew it. His son was his rock. You provided him the comfort he needed.

OUTLAW

I came across this weird blog that castigates fading JWs for their "cowardice" and "hypocrisy" for not making themselves vulnerable to shunning......SBF

It includes the mandatory WBT$/JW Twisted Tale of Bravery!..

There was recently a young man living in the Fiji islands. As the young man was sitting under a tree meditating, he was approached by one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The two had a long conversation, and by the end the young man was deeply interested in what these Witnesses had to teach. He returned to his home island and, excitedly, tried to tell his friends and family and neighbors about these wonderful new teachings, but they would have none of it. Witness teachings were contradictory to official church teachings of the village, and could not be tolerated. His friends quickly abandoned him, his family cut ties with him, and his neighbors even set fire to his crops. But the young man never relented in publicly declaring what he thought to be true, even in the face of loss and persecution. He kept pursuing truth openly and in whatever way he could,
even crossing miles of open sea every week just to attend Witness meetings and learn more........Tears of Oberon

You forgot to include "Man Eating Sharks!" Tears of Oberon..

Sharks Would Make It Way More Scary!..

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DON`T FORGET THE F**KIN SHARKS!!..

Image result for canoe surrounded by sharks

Zoos

His friends quickly abandoned him, his family cut ties with him, and his neighbors even set fire to his crops. But the young man never relented in publicly declaring what he thought to be true, even in the face of loss and persecution.

They are using an example of what they feel is unwarranted abandonment due to their new found beliefs as a way of justifying their own abandonment of family and friends who have new found beliefs?

Because others have done it to Jehovah's Witnesses, people who leave the JWs should suck it up and accept the very same thing.

THAT'S their logic?

problemaddict 2

^^^I love these anecdotal stories one automatically believes as 100% true. Its just hilarious.

Sharks with lasers on their heads even!?

Moral indignation against "faders" shows JW apologists are morally bankrupt

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