question/s for the PIMO

by enoughisenough 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  Smiles

  Without PIMO JWs we would not be receiving the steady stream of WT document leaks received these days.

  PIMO JWs can also perform helpful relief efforts from inside the WT cult. PIMO elders are often very compassionate, and can be valuable advocates during times of dissonance.

  PIMO bethelites may eventually rise to offices of highest authority where they could possibly reform or dismantle the harmful features of JW culture.

  It is entirely asinine to here criticise JWs that choose a PIMO approach, which in most situations is intended to better situate themselves, or compassionately preserve marital union and other beloved relationships; which rightly take precedence over acronym.

  It is not always a black & white "in or out" issue.

  Religiously "divided" households can certainly coexist happily peaceful, and it is a beautiful magnanimous thing when it can be achieved. Good on them.

  Freedom of personal belief is a human birthright. It is also a private decision.

  Disgraceful that any here would denounce or assign guilt to "PIMO"...

  PIMO should be commended for awakening from the WT cult cocktail, and subsequently navigating a careful retreat that they find is best for themselves and their loved ones.

  That being said, PIMO should not be confused with WT apologism, which is rightly excoriable.
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  enoughisenough

  smiles--thank you for your commentary. I personally am grateful to those who have stayed inside that have leaked valuable information. I personally felt guilty! Everyone has to pick their battles. Some have more to loose than others as far as housing, jobs, family are concerned. Kudos to the ones who can stomach it. It can't be easy for them.
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  Anna Marina

  When you are in a sinking ship, if you are wise, you do all you can to get out and if you can help, you try to help others out by getting them to a safe exit. If they don't understand WHY they are in danger, you try to explain, if you have time.

  Who would want someone to risk their life to tell you exactly how the engine room is flooding? It is not important but that person trapped in the engine room, their freedom and life is important.

  That people are trapped is tragic. It is their day-to-day life that is being taken away from them.
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  JeffT

  It was that this issue that prompted my wife and me to DA back in 1989. We did so because we wanted to make sure there was a public record (so to speak) of why we left. However, I've always maintained that you need to follow your own conscience.
  

  I know many here are opposed to sending in DA letters, over the years I've seen lots of comments about "don't give them power," "don't play by their rules."

  Now we have people telling others to just leave, that staying in is hypocritical. I say, since somebody is going to get pissed off no matter how you do it, you should just do what you want.
  
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  Konagirl

  "PIMO bethelites may eventually rise to offices of highest authority where they could possibly reform or dismantle the harmful features of JW culture."

  I wonder how many JWs actually believe in following the example of Jesus Christ. This "system" of belief is corrupt. Jesus didn't mince words when letting his people know their lies. He warned them of the harm that was coming upon them; and he would never have attempted to "rise to offices of highest authority", to fix the problem. John 18:36 Watchtower's sins are much bigger than any one man can "fix". (Rev 18:4-8)

  "It is not always a black & white "in or out" issue."

  Truth is light, lies are darkness. In that sense, it is an "in or out" issue, if one follows Christ. Matt 5:11; Mark 8:35-38; John 16:2,3; Heb 13:13; Rev 13:15

  Religiously "divided" households can certainly coexist happily peaceful, and it is a beautiful magnanimous thing when it can be achieved. Good on them.
  

  How can that be, if one spouse believes that religious unity is thriving under the family arrangement when a PIMO spouse keeps hidden his true beliefs and valuable information that could save his or her partner from future harm?

  If one wakes up to the deceit practiced by the leadership, is it not another form of deceit to hide what a person has come to know about the organization, by keeping that truth hidden from their loved ones? Can one ever trust himself after acting against what truth requires? (Eph 5:11) I wonder how far I would have gotten in waking up, if my husband and oldest son didn't stop going to the meetings, and clearly told me why.

  No one in the organization is benefitting from the leadership's continual wicked attempt to hide the truth...about themselves, about JWs, about the anointed, about Jesus Christ and the Father...that scriptures reveal. I know there are PIMOs getting info out of the organization and into our hands. But you know, it will all come out soon enough. Luke 8:17
  

  No one benefits, if one attempts to hide the truth they have come to know. I believe hiding behind a façade is a “putting off” of the inevitable.

  "Freedom of personal belief is a human birthright. It is also a private decision."
  

  I totally agree, but the natural, compassionate instinct of fellow man enacted in a life-threatening situation that we may come upon, is to help people find safety - to get away from harm's way as soon as possible. The account of the Good Samaritan comes to mind.
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  stan livedeath

  i tried being pimo 50 years ago--long before it became the IN word amongst the ex jw fraternity. It didnt work for me--in fact i hated it--and was glad to be out completely--and be called "apostate" in an announcement in the k-hall ( i wasnt there--in fact--never been since ).

  But i can understand why some choose to stay PIMO for the sake of family--and not wanting to go through what i had to. But a PIMO elder---? that really is a bridge too far.
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  BluesBrother

  If you have no other ties then it is easy to just stop, turn around and get out. Those of us with families face bigger problems. Many men ,and perhaps women, on here have lost their families because of this

  I have been out for 20 years although I am well known and pre Covid we associated socially and I attended Sunday meetings to support my wife. We still zoom together.

  When I first awoke I knew I had to come off eldership and stop it all but I chose a slow fade over several months to prepare the way and make it not such bombshell. It was still traumatic. During the fade period I felt terrible. Nobody likes a hypocrite.

  That period passed and today I am contentedly out and my home life is happier than it has ever been, thanks also to my wife’s practical view of her religion.

  . It was the right way to do it.
  
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  Smiles

  @Kgirl

  You make some interesting points, from an ethical perspective; but why the scriptures strategically plugged in throughout your paragraphs? It reads a bit like a WT study article.

  Do you expect the forum to sit down and bible study the verse citations while we read your post?

  Are you POMI?
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  Anna Marina

  Jehovahs-witness

  Why that name for a website?

  Oh its from the Bible.

  (Isaiah 43:12) . . .So you are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. . .

  
  
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  Anna Marina