Toasting

by hoser 50 Replies latest jw friends

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Some are suggesting that this 180 on toasting,,,,could be used as a reference point in the future.

    So if/when the Borg makes another or more significant flip flop,,,the Borg can reference to the change on beards,,,toasting or grooming,,,,as a reference point.

    🙂

  • hoser
    hoser

    That’s how they roll Beth Sarim

    They refer to a watchtower article or video as it is gospel

    Its like they are making up their own bible again, like they did 75 years ago

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    People are talking about this toasting on youtube.

    That they could be using these "changes" as a distraction from a much more serious issue.

    Like the child abuse problem or the Borgs secret affiliation with the UN for 9 years.

    Things like these.

  • no-zombie
    no-zombie

    while I unfortunately haven't kept an example of this, but a line of reasoning I've seen used quite commonly in Watchtower magazines of the past, is that really a really simplistic example is used at the beginning of an article, and latter in the same study article, its used as prima facia for a heavier application.

    Following along with this reasoning, the Governing Body could very well tie lifting the beard sanction, the field service reporting adjustment and now the toasting issue together, as a basis of a more larger change.

    But to me, this just underscores the weakness of the Governing Body and their real lack of manly leadership. Because instead of standing up to make a difficult decision and owning the fallout, they play this game to minimize their loss of face by literally involving God, by claiming that these changes are part of Jehovah's blessing.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    They were thinking should I say bless you?

    @ExBethel

    No, they were all thinking, "This is awkward".

  • joey jojo
    joey jojo

    Here's a toast to all of us that have been at events where someone raised a glass and said "CHEERS", and we sat there and didnt join in.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    " its a progressive understanding of the 'truth' ".

    I dont know if you've tuned into Mike & Kim's latest video

    This is why,,, it makes no sense.

  • r51785
    r51785

    I think what we have been seeing is a walking back of the religion that Judge Rutherford created. Nearly all the Pharisaic rules in the JW faith originated with Rutherford. His reason for establishing these rules was to establish a tightly knit organization which was different than every other. Adherence to these rules and the persecution that came from following them were proof of the group's righteousness. There is no longer any need for this. Expect the JW's to continue their march toward the mainstream.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Rutherford

    Ahh the 2nd guy who grows an organization.

    Its often been related to as without the 2nd guy,, the cult does not grow, survive.

    Rutherford is where such harsh,, legalistic dogmatic boundaries fell into place.

    Followed by Knorr,,, but really it was Fred Franz at the helm,,, behind Knorr.

  • ElderBerry
    ElderBerry

    There is a feeling of going over the top on this new light is showing support to the GB.

    when sister started wearing pants meetings and ministry they said things like doing my bit to support the new light.

    brothers growing beards “well done doing your bit to show support”

    now every gathering JWs will be saying id like to raise a glass to toast this or that cheers everyone clink clink

    then someone will say well done doing your bit to support the new light.

    This update was to set the stage ready for new light on birthday celebrations and then JWs will go well over the top on kids birthday parties making up for lost time and they will be saying well done doing your bit to supporting the new light. Isn’t Jehovah wonderful allowing us to celebrate birthdays again.

    there is a tipping point when the mass awakening from sleep will topple the tower

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