ECHR Rules Against Free Speech (page 3)

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Fear.

By that I don't mean fear of Islam as much as fear of anti-Islamic violence and social breakdown - and also fear of Islamic violence, surely?

Western media and politicians know what happened to Charlie Hebdo journalists ...

your answer didnt add up for me cofty, but i had to think back a little. Its so called “hate speech” laws that im thinking of, but in the end, its the same result. Those laws are being used to sue and/or imprison people who speak ill of ‘the prophet’.

Followers of jesus, while obnoxious at times, dont seem to seek such protection so im not sure why you referenced that particular fellow in your answer. In fact, followers of jesus are not offered such protections so, upon further review, im even more confused as to your reference...

Simon

It's all part of a creeping Islamification which is how Islam takes over.

Not being allowed to criticize Islam, not being allowed to accurately describe Mohammed, not being allowed for women to have beauty pageants. Kids having homework where they learn Islamic phrases and respect for Allah. Women not allowed in certain shops and on certain streets. The cloth-body-bag-brigade intimidating people not to go into certain areas.

It's all part of Sharia and it has to be fought.

Speak up at any chance you get. Call Mohamed the vile pedophile murdering psychopath that he was and say "fuck you" to anyone who wants to deny you that right. Support anyone who is willing to do it if you are not. Vote to leave any regime that is forcing sharia on you through laws or force immigration of muslims.

The world fought back against Islam before and freedom won and we can win again. We just need resolve and to weed out those that have already infiltrated our systems because too many were asleep and in denial.

Simon

By that I don't mean fear of Islam as much as fear of anti-Islamic violence and social breakdown.

At some point, it happens and it's inevitable if the authorities sacrifice their citizens at the feet of Mohammed and Allah.

There was an interview with Maajid Nawaz where he made the point about yet more cases of Muslim rape gangs operating in Britain and targeting young white girls: how badly do the authorities have to have handled things / ignored the issue for us to see decent, up-till-then law-abiding fathers driving vans into kebab-shop windows because they feel they have no other options?

Muslims need to learn a simple fucking lesson - the same rules that apply to everyone else apply to them as well and they have no right to insist that people join or die. They need to learn that people can laugh at their god, their ridiculous beliefs and their stupidity and they have no recourse other than to suck it up.

It is better for moderate Muslims if Islam is allowed to be criticized and there are restrictions on Burqas etc... because at some point, the only options become submission to Islam or outright confrontation and fighting.

This has happened in multiple places around the world that have ultimately been torn apart by Islamic inspired fighting. Many used to be beautiful places people would go to vacation and now they are shit-holes of depravity and desperation.

Everyplace Islam goes it leaves misery and oppression and the best thing people can do is to fight it. It's nazism but with a deity and dialled up a notch. It's no longer arriving on the beaches or the landing grounds, it's already in the towns and villages.

deegee

Muhammed is in good company. The Christian God is a paedophile too - he got Mary pregnant at age 13/14 with his son, LOL

MeanMrMustard

@deegee:

Indeed that is the point. Do you think that the ECHR would fine you for the content of your previous post? Well maybe they would because you said “Mohammad is in good company...” But other than that, claiming the Christian God is a pedo will get you affirming knods from non-Christians, and eye rolls from devout Christians.

It won’t result in a hate speech fine. And it also won’t result in a beheading with a dull bitter knife.

#TheOnlyGoodMuslimIsABadMuslim

resolute Bandicoot

Good posts Simon, I cannot believe you got down votes, there must be some muslim on here or some poor soul who does not understand that islam is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society.

For this reason it should be challenged wherever it takes root.

resolute Bandicoot

I recently finished reading Robert Spencers new book -

The History of Jihad: From Muhammad to ISIS.

Spencer briskly traces the 1,400-year war of Islamic jihadis against the rest of the world, detailing the jihad against Europe, including the 700-year struggle to conquer Constantinople; the jihad in Spain, where non-Muslims fought for another 700 years to get the jihadi invaders out of the country; and the jihad against India, where Muslim warriors and conquerors wrought unparalleled and unfathomable devastation in the name of their religion.

Thoroughly recommend this book to anybody who wants to get a handle on "the muslim situation"

RB

_Morpheus

Muhammed is in good company............The Christian God is a paedophile too.....he got Mary pregnant at age 13/14 with his son.........LOL

hmmm... interesting that you see some sort of comparability. Lets look at the stories, purely at face value.

god almighty miraculously (meaning no sex involved) impregnates a willing virgin.

Mohamed rapes a 9 year old.

But you see these stories as equivalent?

lets take the stories with a dose of common sense and see if we can make them more relatable.

At worst, a young jewish girl (where you assigned 13/14 as an age is beyond me. The bible mever says. You are assuming based on tradition) ends up pregnant and says “i dont know how!” As a cover up.

Best case its an obvious fairy tale based on similar greek fairy tales for their demi gods and it never happened any more than the births of other greek demigods.

best case with mohamed... at 50 or so years old he raped a 9 year old and called her his wife.

There is no equivalency.

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