"Jehovah" In The New Testament.

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    You see, that's why you shouldn't turn to secular, anti-Christian Bible critics, because they don't use a scalpel to peel away possible secondary interpolations, but instead attack the entire canon with an ax. With such power, the Pentateuch is not the work of Moses, but material "put together" over the centuries, as secular critics claim. But this hypothesis does not help you now, because there are indeed those who argue that John 21 though present in all extant manuscripts, may be a later addition, but not a single serious historian or philologist says that 1) it is the work of Polycarp, 2) if this is so, then the name of YHWH must have been falsified from the entire New Testament also.

    From a Catholic point of view, possible secondary authorship does not preclude canonicity, as the Council of Trent records as such:

    "If anyone does not accept as sacred and canonical the aforesaid books in their entirety and with all their parts, as they have been accustomed to be read in the Catholic Church and as they are contained in the old Latin Vulgate Edition, and knowingly and deliberately rejects the aforesaid traditions, let him be anathema."

    People dissect parables based on all sorts of nonsense, and in the end, it turns out that Jesus did not say anything like it, but it was only the first or second-generation Christian community that made up the verses. Of course, modernists try to reassure us that this does not change the sacred nature and inspiration of the Scripture because the Church's practice of preaching consecrated the text, blah blah blah. OK! But if so, why are they stripping for example the Pericope Adulterae and other important "layers" from the Bible? If it does not matter who originally wrote or said the prophet, apostle, or Jesus what we read in the Bible, why are they omitting the "less old additions". Where do they draw the line?

    Various ideas have been born about how the divine and the human author work together when writing the sacred text. That is, does the Holy Spirit dictate the text literally, or just takes care of the essence and the content, by reminding the author of God's message. However, this essentially remains a mystery. One thing is certain, the Holy Spirit prompts the author to write, guards the content so that no error enters it, but does not take away the author's freedom in terms of formulation, and thus the author's education, knowledge of language, theological conception, emotional world, and character also leave a mark on the text, besides that God inspires every detail of the Scripture, even the seemingly insignificant parts, as taught by Pope Leo XIII in the encyclical "Providentissimus" (DS 1950). The essence of the mystery is, therefore, that just as Jesus is fully God and fully man, so Scripture is entirely the work of God, but also entirely human. Therefore, according to Thomas Aquinas, we can talk about a primary author (auctor principalis) in relation to the Scripture, who is the Holy Spirit, and an executive author (auctor instrumentalis), who is the inspired writer (Summa Theologica: II-II, 171-174 ). Some people talked about verbal inspiration to protect divine authorship, that is, that God inspired not only the content but every single word. But can we still talk about a human author in this case? Others taught real inspiration to preserve the freedom of the human author, according to which the Holy Spirit only prompted the sacred author to write. But the divine authorship in this case is so indirect that the Bible could hardly be truly God's message. The teachings of the Church Fathers (John Chrysostom, and Cyril of Alexandria), who compared the human author to a harp or tool, stand between the two extremes: God plucks the strings, but the harp gives the sound. This conception of inspiration also allows the evangelists to write down or omit different details about Christ's resurrection without making false statements (Augustine). The Council of Trent similarly speaks when in its teaching the human author appears as a tool used against the divine, as the pen in the hand of the writer / "dictante quasi per manus traditæ" / (DH 1501).

    The inspiration ensures that it is not possible to make a mistake in Scripture. Augustine writes this to the more liberal Jerome:

    "I confess to your that I have learned that profound respect against only the canonical sacred books, by the meaning of which I am firmly convinced that none of its authors wrote down an error. If I still stumble upon something that appears to be contrary to the truth, I do not hesitate to think that either the codex is faulty, or the translator does not understand the meaning of what was said, or I do not understand the whole thing” (August. Ep. 28)

    Orthodox (and even conservative-wing) Judaism accepts (at least) the literal inspiration of the Torah, and they have a canonical document for this, the Masoretic canon. In this Torah, the place of every letter and the rules for copying are precisely defined; it is stipulated which "verse" must start and end a page with which letter. This group of documents known to the public as the "Hebrew canon" (Tanakh = Torah + Nevi'im + Ketuvim = Moses + Prophets + Writings), which was also used by SJerome in preparing the Vulgate.

    Trained Hebraists argue more precisely about when this was fixed. The fact is that this division already existed in Jesus' time, it was used from a liturgical point of view, but in terms of the canon, pre-Christian Judaism probably treated the canon as freely as the Catholic Church does: although the entire Vulgate, in every verse and "lemma", is the basic canon, it does not reject the use of other, ancient translations by churches "outside of Rome", and the liturgical use of "apocryphal" (e.g., Psalm 151). Thus, Jews did not reject broader translations used "outside the Land" and their sacramental value.

    A stricter canon management approach developed in a group of the Pharisee party (hence the polemic about the letter and the spirit), which was also recorded at the Council of Jamnia (around AD 90). The Masoretic canon, which has remained essentially unchanged since then, was created after this. Interestingly, the "square" letter also became common by this time, essentially gaining its unchanged (only stylistically varying) shape.

    Of course, the letter also has a symbolic meaning, this is dealt with by Jewish mysticism, which ultimately originates from "the" Mystery of the Name. This partly survived in Christianity. This partly developed from an internal divine intention, and partly the Pythagorean aftertaste of the Hellenistic environment affected it with its number and letter mysticism. This could now be a separate topic.

    By the way, the Torah of the Septuagint canon shows greater agreement in its differences with the Samaritan Pentateuch, in those places which have been set up by Protestant and Jewish principles as "textual corruption", "translation error". Since the "Hebrew canon" is later than the original text from which the Septuagint was translated, and the Samaritan Torah confirms the "mistakes" of the Septuagint translation, as a Catholic we can believe that the Septuagint's "differences" are not the results of "corruption". Not to mention that the Greek base text of the New Testament (not the original text! ) uses the Septuagint, with its "translation errors" and deuterocanonical books. Jesus and the apostles quote the deuterocanonical books as "Scripture" in the New Testament.

    Muslims also have an "original Quran", which they declared canonical, and essentially destroyed the other text variants.

    Catholics and Orthodox accept inspiration according to the "lemma" ("the holy author only wrote down what God wanted him to write down" - thus a false thought in the divine sense is not in it, everything has at least a deeply symbolic message, if not historical). They rejected the extreme "symbolism" (which, for example, Origenes finally practiced) in that they considered what was described in it as a myth by pulling out all historical foundations. God actually entered chronos (space-time) and actually did miracles and gave prophecies, which came true.

    The Holy Spirit definitively recorded the text of the Vulgate through the Magisterium. It doesn't say that other churches, other rites, should not use others, or that they should throw out the Vetus Latina texts from the liturgy. BUT this is a sure point now. Similar approach as in pre-Christian Judaism on the "Hebrew canon of the Land". That is, the Church did not proclaim an "original canon", but a "pattern canon" in the original sense of the word canon.

    Protestants have proclaimed the principle that the original copy is the real one.

    Let's see where this - also existing among Jews and Muslims - approach is wrong:

    1. The Torah was partially written by Moses according to the Jews, this is the so-called "written Torah", while the so-called "oral Torah" is the Mishnah (i.e., "repetition"), which was later recorded in the Talmud. (Let's not talk about the Karaites here, who are basically the Protestants of Judaism.) The written Torah according to the Jews was already established in the time of Moses. However, they can't claim to have the original copy in their possession. Thus, the "original canon" can be compared to the lost Ark of the Covenant, which begins to undermine the integrity of the canon.
    2. Among Muslims there is a similar duality (Quran and Hadith), however, according to the Quran, Muhammad himself was illiterate, not to mention when the "canonized" Quran writing came about. Thus the "original" canon there is also a myth.
    3. Protestants invented the idea that the Catholic Church "falsified" the Bible, as the sole source of faith, the sole manifestation of God's revelation. Therefore, Luther wanted to retranslate it from Hebrew and Greek. However, he didn't know the Hebrew and Greek "original canon" either.

    Catholicism, already in the era of the Church Fathers, did not deny stratification (see the dispute about the "Letter to the Hebrews"), however, it did not make the text's literal "ancientness" a condition for canonicity.

    Modern philology, unfortunately, has been infected by human arrogance, unbelief, and stupidity. Because what is it about? The authorship of those certain "secondary interpolations" like the Pericope Adulterae and the Longer Ending of Mark can be disputed, but it is strictly forbidden to throw it out of the canon. As Christ's humanity is true, for example, his beard was an integral accident, which organically grew out after puberty (the baby Jesus did not have a beard), i.e., it was not his own at birth, but came about organically during his development. The same way some "later addition" were not part of the letter of the original authors at its "birth", but was added to the Church in the course of divine Providence. The canon's "unchangeability", "carved in stone, inorganic" is just as much as Jesus' humanity changed as long as he pilgrimaged in chronos: he ate, drank, physiological changes also occurred in his body during the 33 years. Thus his physical body underwent accidental changes, which did not begin to undermine his substantial integrity. Now the same is true analogously to the "body" of Holy Scripture. This is why truly orthodox (and not modernist) Catholic exegesis is truly Christlike.

    Philology, unfortunately, was influenced by Jewish-Muslim-Protestant original canonism, which is not a coincidence, as rationalist Bible criticism also sprouted in Protestant soil.

    About the so-called "layers". This is where human stupidity and foolishness comes in, the crucifixion of the canon, which thus walks a path similar to the Calvary of the Incarnate Word. Someone truly and rightfully discovered the "later addition". The response to this, "This bastard x.y. discovered this and that, I hated him already at university, now I'll discover that John didn't even write the letter!" Jesus said, evil comes from the heart, which makes one unclean. Most preconceptions are born from pseudo-scientific arrogance, the "publication" pressure, and what's trendy: To show about the Bible it's not like this, nor like that, as the Church interpreted it. This is the continuation of the Protestant rebellion in a "scientifically" disguised guise, but the cat is out of the bag.

    In this, among several renowned researchers, was the tragically heart-attacked Carsten Peter Thiede (1952-2004), a German-born Anglican, a biblical professor at Ben Gurion University and Oxford. He wrote the work "The Quest for the True Cross", in which he proves that the crucifixion relics (pieces of the holy cross, pieces of the crown of thorns, nail, plaque) of the Roman basilica Santa Croce in Gerusalemme were indeed donated to Rome by Saint Helena, and they are indeed true relics related to Christ.

    This German researcher showed with UV examination of Egyptian and Holy Land papyri, analysis of letter types, that the Gospel of Matthew (this is the first!) was created in the time of the eyewitnesses, before AD 50, in the forties, its abbreviated version is the Gospel of Mark truly written in Rome, and that also before the destruction of the Temple.

    The arrogant "scientific public" immediately roared, they ridiculed him, qualified him as preconceived, counter-evidence none. The last argument was like "it may have been created then, but it's still just a fairy tale and not a real historical document". No comment, or rather, "comma".

    Otherwise, history proves that the creed of old Protestantism (sola Scriptura) leads first to fanaticism (literal-fundementalist inspiration of the original canon), later to heresy, the creed of rationalism (only 'science' is the true interpreter) leads quickly to Christ-denial. On the contrary, by virtue of its constancy, the Catholic creed is the preserver of the Christian Gospel, and by virtue of its living, organic nature, it is able to adapt to every demand and capability in the proclamation of the gospel.

    You can dissect the canon with preconceived questions, one can lash its surface, brutally cut "layers" off it, crucify it, mock it, interrogate it, asking where is God in you... BUT, when someone reaches the heart of the canon, they exclaim: "This is indeed the Son of God!"

    That's why I said the "original canon" is one thing, the "base canon" is another, and the "pattern canon" is yet another. The canon is a living reality.

    The "original canon" mania emerged on a Protestant basis, first with fanaticism, then it tried to attack the true flock and their faith with pseudoscience. Unfortunately, some Catholic exegetes also (perhaps unknowingly, because they were raised in this way) adopted the ideology of "original canonism".

    This is the so-called "canonical-archaism", which is similar to the failed ideology that the early Church, or the pre-Carolingian Roman liturgy is the good one, and it must be reconstructed.

    It is equally erroneous when they come up with the idea that the first form of the canon is the good one, and finally they get to the point (filled with forced hypotheses, preconceptions refutable with basic language knowledge) that the "base canon" is just a patchwork of footnotes.

    This is roughly like saying that Jesus Christ can only be depicted as a zygote, as that's what He was when He incarnated. However, this was in His mother's womb, and it developed mysteriously there before He "was born". The canon also had a conception, intrauterine development, birth, and a coming into the public, "canonization". However, those who kill the "Mother" (the Church), the crucifiers of the Son, don't understand this. Without the Mother, the Son cannot be understood, and in His initial form, He is wrapped in the mystery of the Mother, beneath her heart. The same is true in the case of child-killing pseudo-exegetes posing in doctors' coats: they want to tear Christ apart in the womb already. Separating the Canon from the Church is essentially sacrilege amounting to abortion. This scraping began 500 years ago.

    Those incapable of synthesis try to dissect and overanalyze the mystery. The counterfeit works of modernist (and not modern!) exegesis are sacrilegious, God- and man-contemptuous pornographic documents that seek to dissect the indivisible.

    Hands off the holy canon! ENOUGH of the desecralization of the canon! Let's not turn God's dwelling place into a marketplace!

    By God's grace, I still BELIEVE in inspiration, in INSPIRATION and not in what they falsely call inspiration, with which they stuff the word form "inspiration", but biblical studies must be illuminated both by faith with the intellect.

    One can analyze the human part of the Scripture with scientific honesty and humility (considering the limits of science), anyone can think whatever they want about the Holy Scripture, but for me, the Bible is God's word, which has been clothed in human speech, and if I read it in the Holy Spirit, the divine Word (which is sharper than a sword) penetrates my heart, pervades not just the "abstract" mind, but it takes the entire existence with it. The Bible is God's word, His Word not only in an object sense but also in a subject sense!

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    Your post is too long. If you would like to be read with care you could make it easier by being more concise.

    It’s interesting that you mention Carsten Thiede because I credit his book The Jesus Papyrus with getting me interested in Bible manuscripts and palaeography 25 years ago or so. It’s a well written book and certainly grabbed the attention of many people at the time, it’s central claim being that a small fragment of Greek text could be identified as a portion of Matthew from the first century. Unfortunately, as I didn’t appreciate at the time, the evidence he claimed in support of this was rather flimsy and relied on over-specific claims about how one or two letters of the alphabet were written in different time periods. While his work was popular in the media, scholars found his claims incredible based on shallow or non existent evidence.

    Another sensationalist claim about a first century Mark fragment was made more recently by Daniel Wallace but again proved to be unfounded.

    A real work of scholarship, God’s Library by Brent Nongbri has demonstrated to the satisfaction of many scholars that NT fragments generally should be dated later that previously believed, with no fragments definitely dated earlier than the third century.

    David Trobisch’s thesis about the second century edition of the New Testament relies on a broad base of evidence relating to the titles of NT works, the order of their arrangement in MS, the use of nomina sacra, and editorial details including John 21 and much more. In other words a serious contribution to scholarship unlike Carsten Thiede.

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    The notion that Christians were deliberately trying to obscure God's name for theological reasons, such as promoting the Trinity, is not supported by the evidence. Even Arian Christians, who rejected the orthodox Trinitarian position, used "Kyrios" instead of YHWH in their Scriptures. This shows that the substitution was a textual tradition, not a theological conspiracy.

    There is no source to support that in the early Christian era, anyone would have made an issue out of the Tetragrammaton. At the same time, it is completely unfounded to assume that such a tendentious and systematic falsification of the Bible was overcome without a trace, considering the strict adherence of the early Christian community to the accuracy of Scripture. When Jerome began translating the Old Testament from Hebrew into Latin for the Vulgate, a controversy arose between him and Augustine. Augustine reports that a bishop nearly lost his congregation because Jerome translated the name of the plant in Jonah 4:6 (in Hebrew kikayon קִיקָיוֹן, which corresponds mostly to the castor bean plant) as "hedera" (ivy), while in the previously used Vetus Latina texts, the word "cucurbita" (gourd) appeared, which was based on the Septuagint's translation of κολοκύνθη. When the bishop read Jerome's new translation aloud in the church, a disturbance arose among the congregation, and they protested against the unusual word choice, causing uproar.

    For Augustine, this incident demonstrated that Jerome's Hebrew-based translation could lead to unrest in the congregations, as the faithful had become accustomed to the earlier texts based on the Septuagint. Augustine therefore feared that such changes in the new translations could divide the Church, and he requested Jerome to indicate where the Vulgate differed from the Septuagint in his translation. However, Jerome insisted that the Hebrew text was more accurate and thus also more correct.

    Here, perhaps, we should consider how, if such a theologically insignificant translation issue could cause such a scandal, how realistic is the Watchtower Society's idea that "apostate copyists" "erased" "Jehovah" from the New Testament, and no one ever noticed, no one ever protested, and while a plant's name almost caused riots, no one was bothered by alleged substantial falsifications regarding the identity of God in the text...

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    Refuting the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Claim that the Apostolic Authors Originally Included the Tetragrammaton in the New Testament

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses argue that the original New Testament autographs contained the Tetragrammaton (YHWH) in some form—whether in Hebrew, Paleo-Hebrew script, or transliterated as ΙΑΩ. However, this claim is not supported by historical, textual, or theological evidence. Below, I will demonstrate why this hypothesis is untenable, focusing on the lack of indirect evidence, the absence of reports of such manuscripts in early Christian sources, the historical context of early Christianity, and the absence of any controversy over the alleged removal of the Tetragrammaton.

    1. Indirect Evidence Should Exist—But Does Not

    When scholars discovered Greek Old Testament manuscripts in the 20th century that contained the Tetragrammaton, such as P. Fouad 266 or 4Q120, this was not a shocking revelation. Early Christian writers like Origen and Jerome had already described the existence of Septuagint manuscripts with the Tetragrammaton written in Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew characters. This indirect evidence provided historical context for the eventual discovery of these manuscripts.

    However, if the New Testament originally included the Tetragrammaton, we should expect similar indirect evidence in early Christian writings. Yet no early Christian source, including those who had access to the earliest New Testament manuscripts, ever mentions the presence of the Tetragrammaton in the New Testament. The silence of these sources is deafening, especially when compared to their acknowledgment of the Tetragrammaton in Old Testament manuscripts.

    Theological Library of Caesarea Maritima:

    • The Theological Library of Caesarea Maritima, founded by Pamphilus and expanded by Origen, was the largest Christian library of antiquity. Scholars such as Gregory Nazianzus, Basil the Great, and Jerome studied there.
    • If any manuscripts of the New Testament containing the Tetragrammaton existed, they would have been preserved in this library. Yet none of these scholars ever mentions a Tetragrammaton in the New Testament, even though Jerome specifically documented textual variants when producing the Vulgate.

    This lack of evidence strongly suggests that the Tetragrammaton was never part of the New Testament text.

    2. Absence of the Tetragrammaton as an Issue in Early Christianity

    The early Christian period was marked by numerous theological disputes, with different factions accusing one another of heresy and Scripture manipulation. If the proto-orthodox Christians had removed the Tetragrammaton from the New Testament, we would expect their theological opponents to use this as ammunition against them. Yet there is no record of any group accusing the proto-orthodox of such a tampering.

    Key Historical Context:

    • Polycarp of Smyrna and other proto-orthodox figures faced accusations of heresy from theological opponents like the Gnostics or Marcionites. However, no group ever accused them of removing the Tetragrammaton from the New Testament.
    • The absence of the Tetragrammaton was not a point of contention, even during highly charged debates over Christology, Scripture, and ecclesial authority.

    This historical silence suggests that the Tetragrammaton was never part of the New Testament to begin with. If it had been, its removal would surely have been a significant theological issue.

    3. Who Could Have Made Such a Decision?

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses claim implies that someone had the authority and ability to systematically remove the Tetragrammaton from all New Testament manuscripts. However, this is historically implausible.

    Comparison with the Qur'an and Uthman:

    • When Caliph Uthman standardized the Qur'an in the 7th century, dissenting textual traditions still survived, and variant readings are documented in Islamic history.
    • By contrast, no evidence exists of dissenting textual traditions in Christianity where the Tetragrammaton was retained in the New Testament. The process of replacing the Tetragrammaton would have required unprecedented coordination across the diverse and dispersed Christian communities of the Roman Empire, something no single authority in early Christianity could achieve.

    No Centralized Authority in Early Christianity:

    • The papacy as an institution was not yet fully developed in the 1st and 2nd centuries. Christianity was highly decentralized, with regional leaders such as bishops overseeing local churches. There was no mechanism for universally enforcing such a change.
    • The proto-orthodox Christians lacked the power to standardize all New Testament manuscripts, especially when many were in circulation and held by diverse groups, including theological opponents.

    The lack of both evidence and a plausible historical mechanism for such a widespread alteration further undermines the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ claim.

    4. No External Evidence of the Tetragrammaton in Christian Worship

    If early Christians regularly invoked the Tetragrammaton in their worship, we would expect external sources to comment on this. Yet external writers, such as Roman officials or pagan observers, consistently describe Christian worship as centered on Jesus as Lord (κύριος), not on YHWH or ΙΑΩ.

    Pliny the Younger:

    • In his letter to Emperor Trajan (c. 112 CE), Pliny describes Christian worship as follows:
      • "They were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn and sing responsively a hymn to Christ as to a god..."
      • Pliny does not mention Christians invoking the Tetragrammaton, even though such a practice would have caused great scandal to Jews.

    Alexamenos Graffito:

    • The Alexamenos graffito (c. 2nd century) depicts a Christian figure worshiping a crucified donkey, with the inscription:
      • "Alexamenos worships [his] God" (Ἀλεξάμενος σέβεται θεόν).
      • This graffiti mocks Christian worship but makes no mention of the Tetragrammaton. The absence of any reference to YHWH or ΙΑΩ suggests that the Tetragrammaton was not part of early Christian practice.

    The consistent testimony of external sources aligns with the internal evidence of Christian manuscripts: early Christians invoked Christ as Lord and did not use the Tetragrammaton in their worship.

    5. Conclusion

    The Jehovah’s Witnesses’ claim that the Tetragrammaton was originally included in the New Testament autographs is untenable for several reasons:

    1. Indirect Evidence Is Absent: Unlike the case of the Septuagint, where early Christian writers like Origen and Jerome noted the presence of the Tetragrammaton, no similar reports exist for the New Testament.
    2. Theological Silence: The absence of the Tetragrammaton was never an issue in early Christian theological disputes, despite the fierce accusations of heresy that characterized the period.
    3. Impossibility of Systematic Removal: The decentralized nature of early Christianity and the lack of any central authority make it implausible that the Tetragrammaton could have been systematically removed from all manuscripts.
    4. No External Evidence: Roman and pagan sources describe Christian worship as focused on Jesus as Lord (κύριος), with no mention of the Tetragrammaton.

    In light of these points, the claim that the Tetragrammaton was originally part of the New Testament does not hold up to historical, textual, or theological scrutiny. Early Christian usage of κύριος reflects continuity with Jewish tradition, not a conspiracy to obscure the divine name.

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