Corona Virus - What a UK Virologist says!

by The Fall Guy 11 Replies latest social current

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  The Fall Guy

  In an interview on the BBC yesterday, a virus expert laid it on the line:

  He basically said that until the vast majority of people have been infected (or eventually vaccinated) and are then immune from re-infection, the problem will not go away.

  In other words, virtually all of us may be infected before a vaccine is delivered, thereby putting all of the at-risk elderly citizens in the UK in a really perilous position.

  He made it clear that the rate of infections had to be limited as much as possible because the NHS does not have the testing, the beds, the ventilators, or the staff to cope with a tsunami of critically ill elderly victims.
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  TheWonderofYou

  This will last long. Today we have the Information that in the Spanish Flew was not yet available. if we dont slow down and stop contacts, there will be Millions of deaths like in the Spanish flue. Cities that had Hygiene measures and low contact / Isolation had less deaths.

  Let ut protect tue elderly and young in bad health state. 25 % reduction of contact is 50 % less infection.

  Now the infection rate doubles each two day in Europe
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  The Fall Guy

  The UK is basically trying to slow down the numbers being infected, in order to prevent the NHS being inundated with seriously ill elderly patients for whom there would be no ventilators and no hospital beds - a virtual death sentence for many of those ones.
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  newsheep

  There's no proof that this virus won't reinfect a person twice. That part of the virus they don't know,
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  TheWonderofYou

  Either herd immunity or vaccinating all people in the long run

  To avoid a second peak in the winter, Vallance said the U.K. would suppress the virus “but not get rid of it completely,” while focusing on protecting vulnerable groups, such as the elderly. In the meantime, other people would get sick. But since the virus causes milder illness in younger age groups, most would recover and subsequently be immune to the virus. This “herd immunity” would reduce transmission in the event of a winter resurgence. On skynews Vallance said that “probably about 60 percent” of people would need to be infected to achieve herd immunity.

  https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/608065/
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  The Fall Guy

  @ the wonderofyou - a friend who has colleagues in Italy has been told that even young & healthy Italians have died.

  I haven't seen that in the news.
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  slimboyfat

  More information coming in about impact on young people and lungs of survivors.

  https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/coronavirus-doctor-says-lung-scans-for-young-patients-were-nothing-short-of-terrifying/
  

  There is no proof that people who had the disease can’t get it again. There are at least two different stains of the virus, and some have had both. Where does that leave “herd immunity”? The government should have acted quicker to stop this. Delay is criminal.
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  JimmyYoung

  That is not true. Yes it would work to end the spread if everyone caught it but the virus can mutate and spread again. Also if people are self quarantined and its highly enforced then it will die out naturally. and give us time to develop a vaccine if its even possible. Not all viruses can have a vaccine. I believe from what I have been reading this one can have a vaccine made.
  
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  slimboyfat

  You can spout all the theory in the world. The evidence from the 1918 Spanish Flu is clear. Communities that closed schools first had the fewest fatalities overall. Those communities that cancelled public events and isolated had the fewest fatalities overall. If someone back then had told them there was no point taking those precautions because “everyone will be infected in the long run” it would have been absolutely rotten advice, because acting early, and taking strict measures saved lives.

  What kind of freakish nightmare are we living in where people actually need to be convinced that doing everything you can to halt a deadly pandemic is the right course of action? Some people have completely lost their minds, including the UK government.
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  Simon

  There is a perfect case study in how two US cities handled the Spanish Flu outbreak. I think it was St Louis and Philadelphia (?) but one did what we're doing now and the other continued having parades and pretending everything would be OK.

  Guess which one wasn't OK and suffered worse because of it?