Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

by smiddy3 28 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Has this question ever been raised before by Jehovah`s Witnesses? And what`s the significance, if any ?

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    He was raised Jewish, he must have been circumcised 8 days after birth, according to Jewish custom.

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    Of course he was... his parents practiced all the Jewish rituals. 40 days after his birth, they went to the temple with him to complete "pidyon haben" (redemption of the first born).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentation_of_Jesus_at_the_Temple#Scripture

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    So a bit of Jesus got cut off !

    ?? puzzled look ...

    Does that mean he wasn't 'perfect' any more ???

    more puzzled looks...

    Was his foreskin restored by YHWH, when his beloved son was resurrected ???

  • vienne
    vienne

    (Luke 2:21) 21 After eight days, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name given by the angel before he was conceived. . .


  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    the rabbi's new car arrived--he took it to the garage to be simonised.

    a mechanic cut 2 inches of the exhaust pipe.

  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    What is perfection?

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    ThomasMore asks: "What is perfection?"

    One Bible dictionary claims: "Two word-groups in the Hebrew Old Testament are translated "perfect" or "perfection": tamam [m'T] and calal [l;l'K]. The former connotes wholeness, soundness, integrity, and often takes on ethical significance; the latter connotes completeness, perfection, and can carry the aesthetic sense of comeliness or beauty. Nearly all New Testament occurrences translate Greek words sharing the tel- stem, from which some half-dozen words are formed that bear the sense of completion or wholeness."

    (https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/perfect-perfection/)

    But is the way we use the word perfection equivalent to the ancient Hebrew and Greek words?

    That's where I was going with my post (just above), Jesus (minus his foreskin) was no longer 'complete.' It seems a trifling thing (i.e. the foreskin) to lose, but whether you want to believe that old YHWH made Adam (and Jesus) 'complete,' or, you don't believe it, the foreskin is not useless (otherwise why would YHWH bother adding it to the penises of the 2 men it is claimed he created). Your foreskin, does have a function:

    "The foreskin, also known as the prepuce, is the double-layered fold of smooth muscle tissue, blood vessels, neurons, skin, and mucous membrane part of the penis that covers and protects the glans penis and the urinary meatus.[1] The foreskin is mobile, fairly stretchable, and acts as a natural lubricant for the penis."

    .https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin

    Actually, while circumcision may not seem to remove something important, removing it in infancy is a barbaric custom.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    The Bible doesn’t say. The Bible doesn’t say he went to the bathroom either, or the shape of the cross he was executed on.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Someone called it “barbaric “ …really?

    The Mayo Clinic site says this…

    Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:

    • Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.
    • Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later.
    • Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
    • Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.
    • Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.”

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