Members of congregation know it’s not true

by Mikejw 43 Replies latest jw experiences

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  KerryKing

  Sadly, after a lengthy discussion about the CSA scandals with my pimi parents, I see that they're fully in, hook line and sinker.

  They rationalise everything, and excuse anything.,

  I has really saddened me to the point of tears.

  My father justified the two witness rule because he related of two cases, not jw related, where a young girl had falsely accused a man, destroying his life etc only to recant 10 years later.

  My reasoning was, is it fair to deny justice to 1000's of victims because 2 people in the past had been liars?

  To me it shows exactly the attitude of the org to girls and women in particular, we are nothing but cannon fodder to the ego of their men. They are in direct opposition to Jesus command to look after widows and orphans and the lowly ones in society.

  Feeling very disheartened today 😓
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  no-zombie

  I think an easier way to see this attitude is to survey the number of hardcore believers vs the number of those who are just cruising. And while they might not even admit it to themselves, I'm fairly sure that those in congregation who aren't in an appointed position (ie an Elder, MS or Pioneer), they are just trying to live their own lives with minimal interference from the GB. You can see it more clearly in the young married couples who are generally upwardly mobile, travel internationally regularly and enjoy having expensive toys or fine dinning.
  
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  LongHairGal

  NO-ZOMBIE:

  I think you are probably right.

  But, that group of ‘hardcore believers’ (like the few acquaintances I have left there) are older people. They are on the younger spectrum of the Boomer category.. What happens when their older friends pass away? I don’t think they are close to any younger people.. And I doubt the younger people are going to stick around for very long anyway.

  My acquaintances attend on Zoom and I am not sure if they ever attend in person. But, If the religion decides to sell off even more halls so that they would have to drive too far - it’s almost like a game of musical chairs where someone is left standing without a chair. The missing chair being the missing hall.. It just seems to me the JWs are becoming the incredible shrinking religion.
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  Beth Sarim

  Willing to obey instructions whether they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not.

  Something along that.

  Driving further away,,, an inconvenience to yourself & families

  It doesn't matter about you. What does matter is what benefits the Borg.
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  Vidiot

  Beth - “…the incredible shrinking religion.”

  LOL, I wish I’d thought of that one first!

  😄🫶
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  Beth Sarim

  Lol.

  I always thought the Borg has a way of massaging its figures though..

  Or using smaller venues for conventions. To mask such shrinking numbers.
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  Sea Breeze

  Just think what would happen if all the members who know it's not true decided to leave regardless of the repercussions.
  
  I think the WT would experience a 50% loss and the WT probably couldn't survive that. So, it's really a lack of character and fear that keeps the whole charade going.
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  Beth Sarim

  What the Borg cannot have is all of a sudden everyone becoming PIMO.

  That would be the Borgs demise for sure.
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  Vidiot

  Sea Breeze - “…it's really a lack of character and fear that keeps the whole charade going.”

  A while back, someone here - Outlaw, I think - said that one of the things the Org was really effective at was inadvertently creating large groups of people skilled at maintaining pretence (paraphrasing, but not much).

  It really stuck with me.
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  LongHairGal

  VIDIOT:

  That was ME who said that about ‘the incredible shrinking religion’.

  While this is no concern of mine since I am long Out (and never depended on anyone because I worked).. it should be of considerable concern to Witnesses who perhaps didn’t work decent jobs and are on the needy side.. Every now and then an elder or somebody discreetly helps them.

  When more elderly pass away and others leave and halls get sold, etc. these needy JWs who bought into all the religion’s nonsense hook, line and sinker.. are in trouble. The religion (or community) they depended on to have a physical presence either won’t be there OR will be far away….Just sayin’