Naked JW;s - the saga continues
by Moster 21 Replies latest jw friends
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cofty
The governing body are creating a monster.
One of the teens believed the police "were monsters who would kill them," said the document.
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Simon
The governing body are creating a monster.
Or, like many religious groups, they attract nutters.
These people sound like they were nuttery on a whole other level.
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vivalavida
Nutters!
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zeb
Let them do a full on drama at the next convention for light relief.. (Zeb you are getting nasty tsk tsk)
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stillin
Glad that things have simmered down. Everybody gets stupid once in a while. We really can't blame the GB for everything.
Good call, Simon. I hope that a temporary cooling-off period will suffice.
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OrphanCrow
Thanks for posting that article, Moster.
When this story broke, it circled the world on the assumption that the players involved were high on drugs. Which wasn't true at all - it just made for a good story and people ran with it.
Now we "get the goods".
It wasn't drugs. It was an alternative "medical" practice that induced a shared psychosis. Applied kinesiology - a pseudo scientific practice that requires a high degree of belief in order for the participants to engage in it. And...the participants also didn't eat while they were engaging in their "muscle testing". So....take a group of people who are highly suggestible (as most JWs are - they have the ability to put aside reason when it is convenient for their belief system), engage in applied kinesiology, reduce their food intake...and voila! - Armageddon is here!!!
The sentencing is interesting:
While the kidnapping could have netted each of the accused up to 10 years behind bars, Schaffter accepted a joint submission of a one-year sentence to be served in the community — starting with six months of house arrest — followed by two years of parole, understanding that the family posed no real continued threat to their community.
As part of their conditions, the family is barred from taking part in various forms of alternative medicine, including applied kinesiology.
Applied kinesiology, otherwise known as muscle testing, is a pseudo-scientific alternative medicinal practice where practitioners diagnose and treat their clients based on testing muscles for strength and weakness.
The family members will also have to attend counselling to teach them critical thinking and reasoning skills.
While court psychologists believed it was this mental cocktail of pseudo-science mixed with their religious beliefs that created the delusion behind their crimes, Schaffter acknowledged that many questions around their “bizarre” actions will likely remain unanswered.The family members will also have to attend counselling to teach them critical thinking and reasoning skills.
Huh. Six months of house arrest. Guess they will have to get their time in by doing online witnessing or something like that.
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tiki
Poor lost souls....looking for a magical release from human realities....and obviously poor coping skills...why they were attracted to a bizarre religion and quacky "health" pursuits......
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OrphanCrow
tiki: Poor lost souls....looking for a magical release from human realities....and obviously poor coping skills...why they were attracted to a bizarre religion and quacky "health" pursuits......
The JWs live inside a fictionalized world. What they did in this situation made perfect sense to them - they embraced their fiction and acted it out.
We all have that ability - the ability to suspend our disbelief. We all do it - whenever we engage in watching a movie, reading a novel, etc. However, it isn't healthy to not know the difference between fantasy and fact.
This group of people engaged in unhealthy mental gymnastics. They suspended their disbelief to the extreme. By adding a physical deprivation to an already potent mix - religious belief and quack medical belief (both pseudo concepts) - it allowed them to enter wholly into the fantastical world.
They mixed their "drugs". Religion and quack medicine. A dangerous mix.
*to add - The judge should have put them all on three meals a day. Fasting alone can bring on a delusional state. Ask any good pagan about the need to "ground" with food and fluids after engaging in ritual!
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Giordano
I think they got off lightly. They were kidnappers, used their car as a weapon with potential injury to a mother and child.
They were way out of control. No doubt there was some form of drugs used. None of this was even remotely sane. How many wrong and dangerous actions did they get involved in?