Still wondering what your answer is.
Exactly what would you have done?
Dis/UNITED Kingdom?
by BoogerMan 46 Replies latest social current
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galaxie
Layperson versus responsible specialists and governors...who provides the protection? we are at the mercy of our overlords and rely on their judgement, the future enquiries(undoubtedly)will be enlightening it will play out for a long time to come.
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BoogerMan
@ COFTY - Quarrantine the residents and the staff for starters - many lives were at stake - and then show the staff how to implement strict hygiene measures - something which was alarmingly lacking when I visited my best friend's mother in the so-called "care" home where she was (thankfully) a temporary resident.
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stan livedeath
my wife is the registered manager of a care home in the UK ( 20 residents ) its a nice easy job--except for the staff, many of which are worse than useless.
yesterday, the night shift senior phone my wife at home to say she wouldnt be able to work last night--because she had a headache! a lot of phone calls to find a stand in --as usual--produced nothing. so my wife did the wakeful night herself--again.
but here comes the farce. the night junior called her--offering the services of her sister as a stand in---untrained--no experience--cash in hand as she was on the 80% furlough.
last weekend--a mighty row blew up in the home--the day senior found out the cleaner / junior night carer was doing hairdressing at home for paying customers--because SHE NEEDED THE MONEY. just how do you educate pork like these about personal safety and the spread of viral diseases ?. need less to say my wife ended up doing the night last weekend too.
as UK care homes are in lock down--no visitors allowed, how do you think the virus gets in ? all care staff must be tested NOW.
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BoogerMan
Exactly Stan.
Children's nurseries etc. are subject to stringent tests in order to protect kids from pervs.
Care home residents should likewise be protected from potential killers.
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stan livedeath
there are 2 categories of care home resident in the UK:
1: self funding. these pay the care fees themselves, care home owners like these...they can charge whatever they like---typically five to seven hundred pounds a week. the money may come from savings, pensions, help from family, but it often involves the sale of the clients own home. the care home owner hopes they live to a ripe old age, whereas family members cast a nervous eye on the rapidly dwindling inheritance.
2: funded by the local authority. the fees are paid by the local authority: in other words--the taxpayer. the local authority has set amounts they will pay, depending on the level of care required. the fees are nowhere near enough, and contributions are expected from the client, or their family. often, the clients home has to be sold--to repay the local authority. or a charge imposed on the deeds if there is a surviving family member still living there. from my experience care standards are somewhat less, but it would be improper to suggest the taxpayers hope the client doesnt drag it out too long.
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cofty
Quarrantine the residents and the staff for starters - Boogy
So you would confine all care staff - many are on minimum wage - to confinement within the care home for 8 weeks and counting. Pending a vaccine you will have to lock them into the care home for in excess of a year.
They have families! They have children who depend on them.
Is this seriously your suggestion? Did you even take 5 minutes to think it through before you started typing?
Since your idea is clearly unworkable do you have any sensible suggestions?
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stan livedeath
there is a home here not far from me--on the isle of wight, where some staff were camping out in tents in the garden of the care home. i did say to my wife--weeks ago--she might well have to end up living in for a while.
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Simon
The problem is that working in a care-home for the elderly is mostly low-skilled. That means you get low-paid people doing it who then have to work more hours to earn money. Typically this might mean working in multiple care-homes for shifts. Lower paid people are also more likely to be living in cramped housing, in close proximity with other low-paid workers and family, and taking public transit.
So we had a situation where we have the people most vulnerable to the effects of the virus being in constant contact with the people at high risk of becoming infected.
Just saying "stop them" or "lock them in" is not workable. Any solution needs to be practical for all involved.
It's a pity some of the funding wasted on things that weren't needed and paying less vulnerable people not to work, couldn't have been better spent on protecting people in care-homes.
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stan livedeath
just heard a bbc news report saying the low paid are more likely to die than the higher earners.
the solution to that problem is easy--
pay them more !