Corrections: In my prior post where I said "much ideologically" I should have said "much more ideologically". Where I said "in regards in 'dueling' words" I should have said "in regards to 'dueling' words".
Why some are religious or not?
by Vidqun 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Vidqun
Disillusioned, I guess we can agree not to agree. Main question: Are the vaccines safe? Do they work? You put your trust in government, MSM, Big Pharma and the FDA. Good luck with that. Follow the money. I know of quite a few people severely damaged or dead (in real life) after having taken the vaccines. The following videos are all based on conspiracy theories and special effects. That's why you don't see them on MSM.
https://www.brighteon.com/d7dae73c-b78c-453a-88d3-77dc4903aa88
https://www.brighteon.com/a630b92e-dc15-44fc-8865-ce2a5907255c
https://www.brighteon.com/77988c53-b9bd-4705-acc3-4a5f139e4ba5
Note the reaction of MSM:
Do the vaccines and boosters work like a vaccine should? By the way, these are not vaccines but gene therapy by definition. You can still contract and spread COVID after being "fully" vaccinated.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/world-health-organization-says-no-evidence-booster-jabs-would-offer-greater-protection
Best one for last.
https://www.brighteon.com/698bda64-e06b-4a2a-9b4a-89d916a50e9c
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Disillusioned JW
Vidqun, about 87% of the work force of my employer's staff of about 500 people (including temps) are now fully vaccinated for Covid-19. None of those people appear to have been harmed from the vaccines, other than some of them briefly having soreness and related symptoms at the injection site. Our employer paid (in the form of a store gift card) the employees to get the vaccine and they still offer to pay (in the form of a store gift card) those who are currently unvaccinated for Covid-19 if get vaccinated. Now the employer has Safeway pharmacists give the Covid-19 vaccines at the job site (even at the same sitting that flu shots are given), and for at least 3 years Safeway pharmacists also have been giving flu shot vaccines at the job site. If the conspiracy claims of the Covid-19 vaccines being very dangerous are true, then I and others at work would have noticed it in the work place. But, I have not heard any talk at all by my coworkers saying the Covid-19 vaccines they received have harmed their health.
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Vidqun
Problem is, if you do pick up a problem after being vaccinated, you have no recourse. No doctor will go against the vaccine manufacturers. We had J&J and Pfizer jabs in our part of the world. I know of about fifteen people that died and quite a few that have retained permanent disabilities after their jabs, e.g., tremors, epileptic fits, blood clots, strokes, etc. You should feel lucky that you and your colleagues came off scot free. But its early days and time will tell whether there are long term side effects. Remember, we are now in phase 2 of the experiment. Only after phase 3 (3-4 years) will we really know what's really going on.
Imperfect VAERS numbers (underreported and/or backlogged): 18,461 American deaths (more deaths than all vaccines of all time combined), 2,887 miscarriages, 91,982 hospitalizations, 29,984 permanently disabled, 8,082 cases of anaphylaxis (allergic reaction), 11,229 cases of Bell's Palsy, 13,237 cases of myocarditis, etc. I can go on and on.
Last week I spoke to a man and his wife. They farm with camels. Today I hear, he's dead, but she's all right. As I said, you and your colleagues are the lucky ones. Last thought, before signing off. The CDC had a list of adverse effects 2 months before the vaccines became available. It's like a prophecy. It became 100% true. So they knew what was coming and gave emergency authorization regardless.
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Disillusioned JW
Vidqun, while searching for news articles about science in the USA a moment ago I found an article which supports to some degree your concerns about Covid-19 vaccines causing blood clots (though it says the blood clots are rare). It pertains to the AstraZeneca vaccines and possibly to the Johnson & Johnson vaccines, since those vaccines use an adenovirus as a helper virus. It does not pertain to the Pfizer vaccines and Moderna vaccines since they don't use a helper virus. The vaccine I had was the Moderna one and I chose it because I thought it was the safest, including in regards to risk of getting blood clots. A person from the Human Resources department at my place of work told me that hardly any of the workers in our company took the Johnson & Johnson vaccine (or any one-dose vaccine). The AstraZeneca vaccine is not approved for use in the USA, but it is allowed to be exported from the USA (see https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-august-6-2021#:~:text=The%20AstraZeneca%20vaccine%20is%20not,be%20exported%20for%20use. ). That means nearly all of the workers at my place of work had either the Pfizer vaccine of the Moderna vaccine, and when I asked some co-workers which one they took, they either said Pfizer or Moderna, with only a couple or so saying Johnson & Johnson. I notice you said that J&J and Pfizer were the vaccines offered in your part of the world. The article I read is from the New York Times and thus I probably can't post a link to it, though I see nothing in its content which I think can be construed as liberal. I am not sure if I am allowed to state the title of the article on this site, but the article is dated Dec. 2, 2021. The NYT article has a link to a science journal article about the findings at https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abl8213 . -
Disillusioned JW
I agree that if a person (at least in the USA, I don't know in regards to other countries) gets a health problem after being vaccinated with a Covid-19 vaccine, that person has no legal recourse against the manufacturer of the vaccine. That is because the USA federal government (since 2020) has decreed that those manufacturers can't be sued in regards to those vaccines. That is something which disturbs me. -
Simon
"Follow the science" really means "Follow the scientists ... that we paid for"
The "hide the data for 55 years" is hardly convincing that things are as safe as they claim (unless you're a grade A idiot).
Also, remember how anyone who died within 30 days of a positive test was classed as a "Covid Death"? Well the counter to that is completely opposite. If you die within 14 days of a vaccine, not only are you not counted as a vaccine death, you are counted as an unvaccinated death.
Yes, you heard that right. If you die from a vaccine then you become more evidence of the efficacy and safety of the vaccines.
The anomaly was picked up because vaccinated people statistically have a much lower death rate for non-covid causes, which caused the dubious statistical tricks to be uncovered.
So many politicians suddenly getting filthy rich and also news agencies with links to Pfizer.
It's all lies now, and it's time it ended.
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pistolpete
Disillusioned JW
That is because the USA federal government (since 2020) has decreed that those manufacturers can't be sued in regards to those vaccines. That is something which disturbs me.
It should disturb you. Imagine if I could sell any product, and Claim it could do anything, from making you look younger to preventing cancer and it would cost you an arm an a leg. And imagine if the Government protected me- from you suing me in any way or form-----EVER.
And 6 years down the line after I took a big chunk of your money and the money of MILLIONS of other people---- you then find out you got cancer from my product and YOU COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
In the meantime while you and your loved ones were dying of cancer, me and all my family were living here;
https://s-i.huffpost.com/gen/1168191/images/o-BEACH-HOUSES-facebook.jpg
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Disillusioned JW
pistolepete, I've haven't paid even a penny for my Covid-19 vaccine doses, other than perhaps indirectly in income taxes (and even that is unlikely considering the current tax structure in the USA). In the USA the Covid-19 vaccines are administered at no charge to the public - the federal government is the one paying for them. The government (starting with the prior president's administration and continuing into the government of the current president's administration) said the reason is keep the cost down for the government and to get the vaccines to the people quicker.
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Vidqun
This explains how it works. It's all a big coincidence:
https://www.brighteon.com/698bda64-e06b-4a2a-9b4a-89d916a50e9c
