Article: Spain: Jehovah’s Witnesses Win Important Case Against “El Mundo”

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  • Tahoe
    Tahoe

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    A Spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article. The court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former Witnesses and has uncritically published it.


    The Spanish Jehovah’s Witnesses won an important case against the Spanish newspaper “El Mundo,” which on November 21, 2022, published a slanderous article based on information supplied by the anti-cult organization Association of Victims of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. On October 2, the Court of First Instance no. 1 of Torrejón de Ardoz dismissed the newspaper argument that responsibility lied only with the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It ordered “El Mundo” to publish the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ reply and to pay the litigation costs.



    In the decision, which is subject to appeal, the court did not limit itself to recognize the right of reply of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. It also discussed the merit, finding the allegations of the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses both likely to cause damage to the religious organization and inaccurate.



    The court found it self-evident that the article “generated verifiable damages” to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. To start with, “the title of the article itself included the word ‘cult’ [‘secta’ in Spanish] that has unquestionable negative connotations with respect to any religion.” The stories coming from the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses are, the judges said, “objectively harmful to the fame and credibility [of the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization], such as referring that it is a religious association (which they call a ‘cult’) with ‘cultic’ practices, stating that it causes ‘social death’ to those who leave it, that it ‘compels’ its members not to report crimes, that it alienates its members, and that it ‘encourages physical and moral suicide,’”and so on. Thus, “from any point of view, the article mentions allegations by third parties that cause undeniable damage to the religious association.”




    Then, the judges examined “whether the allegations in the article are inaccurate,” and concluded that most are. The decision noted that “the first thing that is striking is the title of the article itself, where the plaintiff entity is catalogued as a ‘cult,’ then throughout the extensive text the terms ‘cultic practices’ are used.” According to the decision, “the information in this case is based on a fact that is clearly inaccurate, since the Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses are a religious denomination registered in the General Section (Minority Religions), inscription number 000068 of the Register of Religious Entities kept at the Ministry of Justice, so we are dealing with a legitimately recognized denomination in our country like many others.



    Therefore, to classify the plaintiff entity as a cult is legally erroneous since, in the context of the analyzed article, it implies attributing to the plaintiff some pernicious or harmful features as opposed to the rest of the religious confessions legally established in Spain.”



    Second, the article refers to “testimonies of alleged victims of sexual abuse within the religious denomination …, alluding to a certain situation in Australia where allegedly ‘they hid more than a thousand cases of sexual abuse.’”


    The article also mentions a “former Jehovah’s Witness who reports that he was allegedly abused ‘among the Witnesses,’ concluding that ‘they kill you in life,’ and “another former witness who explains the context of some alleged rapes and that ‘they constantly threatened him that if he spoke, they would form a judicial committee…’”



    The court concluded that, when carefully examined, “these facts are not accurate and further affect the public consideration of the plaintiff since, on the one hand, there is no certain record of any conviction of the religious entity as a whole for the aforementioned unspecific cases of sexual abuse in Australia, so it is an inaccurate fact that the alleged events were concealed in that oceanic country.


    On the other hand, with respect to the specific accounts of alleged sexual abuse, it is not so much that the fact is true or not (in fact, no evidence of any convictions arising from such allegations, if any, has been provided), but that at all times the plural and collective number is used when referring to the alleged sexual abuse, to attribute to the religious denomination as a whole the responsibility for ‘sexual abuses perpetrated within the group’ rather than to the persons who in each case had caused the alleged abuses or sexual aggressions.”



    Overall, the part of the article concerning sexual abuse should be “classified as inaccurate.”

    Third, the practice by the Jehovah’s Witnesses of the so-called ostracism or shunning, i.e., counseling members not to associate with ex-members who have been disfellowshipped or have publicly left the organization, is qualified in the article as sentencing these former members to “social death” and “a silent hell.”



    The court found the description of the practices by the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses as based on “facts that are not clearly proved, since it is one thing to assert the right or freedom to choose to relate with a certain person inside or outside a certain religious confession, and another that, as indicated in the article, ‘when they are inside the cult they are explicitly or implicitly forced to relate only with other faithful’”—which is “inaccurate.”



    Worse, the court reports, “the article expressly states that ‘there are double standards, because many elders are either adulterers or pedophiles,’” and that the Jehovah’s Witnesses “encourage physical and moral suicide.” These allegations, the court found, “once again lack a demonstrable objective basis,” and are “inaccurate and extremely damaging to the prestige of the plaintiff entity.”


    In summary, the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses was caught red-handed spreading false information, and “El Mundo” was caught red-handed uncritically reporting it. “It is not a question here of refuting or censuring opinions—explains the court—, but to legally sanction the erroneous or directly false facts that support such opinions.”



    The court also confirms that a media “is responsible for the content of what is disseminated”, including allegations made by third parties. “To admit otherwise— the court argues—would be as much as to legitimize any type of publication based on unquestionably false or untrue facts, just because it is a third party who maintains this erroneous view of the facts.”



    It is not the first time that media fall into the trap of publishing slander fed to them by anti-cult organizations, “experts” on “cults” (in this case, the “expert” interviewed was Carlos Bardavío, i.e., the lawyer representing the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses in another case), and “apostate” ex-members.


    It is also not the first time that a media outlet—even one that is a member of The Trust Project—refuses to publish a religious community’s reply to an insulting article. The decision should teach these media a lesson. However, it is unlikely this will happen. Some journalists are like the crow in Aesop’s fable, which kept being deceived by the fox and swearing that it had happened for the last time, only to be duped again at the next opportunity

  • BoogerMan
    BoogerMan

    If it looks like a cult, speaks like a cult, and acts like a cult - then it's a cult!

    Millions of ex-JW's will testify to the fact of their being "stoned to death."

  • vienne
    vienne

    Jehovah's Witnesses: A New Introduction, a recent work by Dr. George Chryssides suggests that the actual number of activist xJWs is quite small. Why do you say 'millions.' That seems an exaggeration to me.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/jehovahs-witnesses-9781350190894/
  • enoughisenough
    enoughisenough

    I wonder if the finding would have been different if they had not been referred to as a cult. I hope it gets appealed. Maybe the courts don't know the real facts, but those of us who are victims shunning /or other abuses know.

  • markweatherill
    markweatherill

    Good old Massimo Introvigne aka 'Dracula boy' collecting another watchtower paycheck.

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    Sounds like the story was true...but they should have allowed a rebuttal by WT.

  • was a new boy
    was a new boy

    Until recently the Unification Church in Japan wasn't a cult either.

    'Japan's government has asked a court to revoke the legal status of the Japan branch of the Unification Church, the controversial group founded in South Korea by the Reverend Sun Myung Moon.'

    https://www.npr.org/2023/10/13/1205671725/japans-government-asks-court-to-revoke-legal-status-of-unification-church

  • EasyPrompt
    EasyPrompt

    Massimo Introvigne is a professional liar. Every other word out of his mouth is false. He makes a living by publishing lies. No wonder he's buddies with the FD$. "Nasty birds of a feather flock together."

  • vienne
    vienne

    I've had very few dealings with Massimo Introvigne. I do read his bitter winter web page. Where has he lied? I'm very interested.

    And what proof is there that they Watchtower Society finances his work?

  • EasyPrompt
    EasyPrompt

    FROM HENRY IV, PART II, ACT 2, SCENE 1


    "Take heed of him: he stabbed me in mine own house, and that most beastly. He cares not what mischief he doth, if his weapon be out. He will foin like any devil. He will spare neither man, woman, nor child."


    "Where has he lied? I'm very interested."


    Yes, I know you are.



    How does Massimo Introvigne prevaricate? Let me count the ways...(his article will be in quotes and my comments in parentheses...)


    "A Spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article. The court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former Witnesses and has uncritically published it."


    (In what way was the initial newspaper article "defamatory"? It's the WTBT$ organization that defames ex-JWs by having publicly announced at meetings as "so-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's witnesses" when in all actuality only Jehovah God himself can make that call.)


    "The Spanish Jehovah’s Witnesses won an important case against the Spanish newspaper “El Mundo,” which on November 21, 2022, published a slanderous article based on information supplied by the anti-cult organization Association of Victims of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. On October 2, the Court of First Instance no. 1 of Torrejón de Ardoz dismissed the newspaper argument that responsibility lied only with the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It ordered “El Mundo” to publish the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ reply and to pay the litigation costs."


    (The Spanish Jehovah's Witnesses didn't "win" an important case. They continue to hurt people that they've already hurt, and they disobey Jesus' teachings to not take your brothers to court over such things. That is not a "win" for the Spanish Jehovah's Witnesses - it is a loss.)


    "In the decision, which is subject to appeal, the court did not limit itself to recognize the right of reply of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. It also discussed the merit, finding the allegations of the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses both likely to cause damage to the religious organization and inaccurate."


    (The religious organization of "Jehovah's Witnesses" has done damage to many victims. It's not AVJW that is causing damage - it's the JWorganization that is damaging the victims. Massimo writes in a way that hurts those who have already been hurt by the JWorganization because he paints doubt on the victims and makes the perpetrator look like the one getting harassed. It's twisted.)


    "The court found it self-evident that the article “generated verifiable damages” to the Jehovah’s Witnesses. To start with, “the title of the article itself included the word ‘cult’ [‘secta’ in Spanish] that has unquestionable negative connotations with respect to any religion.” The stories coming from the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses are, the judges said, “objectively harmful to the fame and credibility [of the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization], such as referring that it is a religious association (which they call a ‘cult’) with ‘cultic’ practices, stating that it causes ‘social death’ to those who leave it, that it ‘compels’ its members not to report crimes, that it alienates its members, and that it ‘encourages physical and moral suicide,’”and so on. Thus, “from any point of view, the article mentions allegations by third parties that cause undeniable damage to the religious association.”"


    (They are a cult. Even according to the definition in the WTBT$ literature they fit the definition of a cult. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5188410847789056/cult-high-control-group?page=2#/6283719799734272 )


    "Then, the judges examined “whether the allegations in the article are inaccurate,” and concluded that most are. The decision noted that “the first thing that is striking is the title of the article itself, where the plaintiff entity is catalogued as a ‘cult,’ then throughout the extensive text the terms ‘cultic practices’ are used.” According to the decision, “the information in this case is based on a fact that is clearly inaccurate, since the Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses are a religious denomination registered in the General Section (Minority Religions), inscription number 000068 of the Register of Religious Entities kept at the Ministry of Justice, so we are dealing with a legitimately recognized denomination in our country like many others."


    (It doesn't matter what the registration says. It matters what happens in the organization.)


    "Therefore, to classify the plaintiff entity as a cult is legally erroneous since, in the context of the analyzed article, it implies attributing to the plaintiff some pernicious or harmful features as opposed to the rest of the religious confessions legally established in Spain.”


    (The organization is pernicious and harmful. Breaking up families is pernicious and harmful. Misusing scriptures to hide CSA and other forms of abuse is pernicious and harmful.)


    "Second, the article refers to “testimonies of alleged victims of sexual abuse within the religious denomination …, alluding to a certain situation in Australia where allegedly ‘they hid more than a thousand cases of sexual abuse.’”


    (Massimo writes as if he doesn't believe the victims.)


    "The article also mentions a “former Jehovah’s Witness who reports that he was allegedly abused ‘among the Witnesses,’ concluding that ‘they kill you in life,’ and “another former witness who explains the context of some alleged rapes and that ‘they constantly threatened him that if he spoke, they would form a judicial committee…’”


    (The elders do threaten people all the time. Massimo doesn't know what he's talking about. Just because the judge felt he didn't have enough information doesn't mean the person wasn't telling the truth.)


    "The court concluded that, when carefully examined, “these facts are not accurate and further affect the public consideration of the plaintiff since, on the one hand, there is no certain record of any conviction of the religious entity as a whole for the aforementioned unspecific cases of sexual abuse in Australia, so it is an inaccurate fact that the alleged events were concealed in that oceanic country."


    (How does Massimo know? Was he there? Just because the entire religious entity as a whole has not been convicted yet doesn't mean they're not guilty of the crime. It just means they've not been prosecuted for it yet. Just because a criminal has avoided arrest doesn't mean he didn't do it.)


    "On the other hand, with respect to the specific accounts of alleged sexual abuse, it is not so much that the fact is true or not (in fact, no evidence of any convictions arising from such allegations, if any, has been provided), but that at all times the plural and collective number is used when referring to the alleged sexual abuse, to attribute to the religious denomination as a whole the responsibility for ‘sexual abuses perpetrated within the group’ rather than to the persons who in each case had caused the alleged abuses or sexual aggressions.”


    (The religious leaders are guilty. The men taking the lead at headquarters claim to represent Jesus himself. They claim to be "the Faithful and Discreet Slave". They order the other men around. They make rules that everybody in the organization has to follow. If someone doesn't obey the rules, they get disciplined or even shunned. When children or other vulnerable ones are taught to trust those "taking the lead" because of the directions from headquarters, and then those ones "taking the lead" abuse them, there is definitely guilt involved on the part of the men who made the directions that led to that abuse. Those kids wouldn't have been in that compromising circumstance if the men at headquarters didn't have the rules the way they do, and if they didn't teach that the elders were "in Jesus' hand" and things like that.)


    "Overall, the part of the article concerning sexual abuse should be “classified as inaccurate.”

    Third, the practice by the Jehovah’s Witnesses of the so-called ostracism or shunning, i.e., counseling members not to associate with ex-members who have been disfellowshipped or have publicly left the organization, is qualified in the article as sentencing these former members to “social death” and “a silent hell.”


    (Why should the part of the article concerning sexual abuse be considered inaccurate? Sexual abuse happens in the organization. Shunning is hell. It is social death. Massimo doesn't know what he is talking about. He is a liar. He is asserting things backwards. He is defending the bad guys and hurting the victims.)


    "The court found the description of the practices by the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses as based on “facts that are not clearly proved, since it is one thing to assert the right or freedom to choose to relate with a certain person inside or outside a certain religious confession, and another that, as indicated in the article, ‘when they are inside the cult they are explicitly or implicitly forced to relate only with other faithful’”—which is “inaccurate.”


    (Massimo is wrong. It's not inaccurate. It happens all the time in the JWorganization. What does he think Bethel is all about?)


    "Worse, the court reports, “the article expressly states that ‘there are double standards, because many elders are either adulterers or pedophiles,’” and that the Jehovah’s Witnesses “encourage physical and moral suicide.” These allegations, the court found, “once again lack a demonstrable objective basis,” and are “inaccurate and extremely damaging to the prestige of the plaintiff entity.”


    (There are double standards in the congregation. There are elders who are adulterers or pedophiles who stay in the good-graces of the headquarters guys and there are victims of abuse who are disfellowshipped for telling on it.)


    "In summary, the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses was caught red-handed spreading false information, and “El Mundo” was caught red-handed uncritically reporting it. “It is not a question here of refuting or censuring opinions—explains the court—, but to legally sanction the erroneous or directly false facts that support such opinions.”


    (Massimo is spreading false information. Just because the court didn't decide a certain way doesn't change what happened to those victims.)


    "The court also confirms that a media “is responsible for the content of what is disseminated”, including allegations made by third parties. “To admit otherwise— the court argues—would be as much as to legitimize any type of publication based on unquestionably false or untrue facts, just because it is a third party who maintains this erroneous view of the facts.”


    (Massimo is the one doing the very thing he said the court was warning about - Massimo is continuing to spread a false report about the victims and to try to make the image of the perpetrator look like the good guy.)


    "It is not the first time that media fall into the trap of publishing slander fed to them by anti-cult organizations, “experts” on “cults” (in this case, the “expert” interviewed was Carlos Bardavío, i.e., the lawyer representing the Association of Victims of Jehovah’s Witnesses in another case), and “apostate” ex-members."


    (Massimo is supposedly an expert on cults. He is the one publishing slander fed to him by the WTBT$. The WTBT$ slanders the victims all the time. The WTBT$ leaders are the ones apostatizing from what the Bible teaches. Their disfellowshipping doctrine is just one of the many ways they disobey the Christ.)


    "It is also not the first time that a media outlet—even one that is a member of The Trust Project—refuses to publish a religious community’s reply to an insulting article. The decision should teach these media a lesson. However, it is unlikely this will happen. Some journalists are like the crow in Aesop’s fable, which kept being deceived by the fox and swearing that it had happened for the last time, only to be duped again at the next opportunity."


    (Massimo insults the victims. Jehovah will teach Massimo a lesson. Massimo keeps getting duped by the WTBT$ headquarters guys, but those WTBT$ guys will be removed and their religious institution dissolved - all the religious institutions will be - so Massimo will have to get a different job instead of defending abusive religious hypocrites.)


    "And what proof is there that they Watchtower Society finances his work?"


    Why don't you tell me?


    (We've talked about it before, and you already know it anyway.)

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