Is 1st Century advice on marriage still relevant in today’s modern world?

by liam 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • liam
    liam
    God's advice on marriage is timeless since he is the author of marriage.

    Christian Standard Bible; Exodus 20:10

    If he takes an additional wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.

    I guess since I have the money to support a ton of wives, that would be OK with God

    Show this Bible verse to any Woman, Christian or non-Christian, and see the reaction.

    No woman can be happy marrying a man who already has several wives. The idea back then, when God gave this advice in Exodus, implies that woman were not meant to be happy, instead, they were meant to raise children, especially boys. That’s why the Bible always praises men like Jacob who had 12 sons and those twelve sons made the Nation of God.

    The only time the daughters are mentioned is when they are mentioned in bad light, like Jacob’s daughter Dinah.....the fornicator. .

    Just imagine what it was like for Jacob’s two wives, who disliked each other because Jacob favored one over the other and they had to bargain with each other to have sex with their own husband.

    Genesis 30:14 Rachel asked, “Please give me some of your son’s mandrakes.”

    But Leah replied to her, “Isn’t it enough that you have taken my husband? Now you also want to take my son’s mandrakes?”

    Well then,” Rachel said, “he can sleep with you tonight in exchange for your son’s mandrakes.”

    Now imagine how awful it was for Solomon’s 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    Modern laws, at least in the USA forbid men from having more than one wife. Ask Joseph Smith if you don’t believe me.

    Ask any woman which law they prefer, the law God gave in Exodus or modern law that men can only marry ONE woman.

    God could have easily told the Israelites when he gave them the 10 commandments.

    11th commandment; Men can only have ONE Wife! ……..it’s that simple.

    Maybe, just maybe, the Bible is man's creation, man's thoughts, and men back then loved having a bunch of blonds, Redheads, and brunettes at their disposal, so they wrote it into a story that says; "God Says having many wives is OK.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7o66ZzOYC0k

  • Drearyweather
    Drearyweather
    Christian Standard Bible; Exodus 20:10
    If he takes an additional wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.

    Are you sure you are referring to the right scripture?

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Liam,

    You titled this thread 1st Century Advice, then you switch to the OT. One third of the earths population only accept the NT as their sole authority. Jesus restored the original intent of marriage:

    The proud religious law-keepers came to Jesus. They tried to trap Him by saying, “Does the Law say a man can divorce his wife for any reason?” 4 He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? 5 It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ 6 So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”

    7 The proud religious law-keepers said to Jesus, “Then why did the Law of Moses allow a man to divorce his wife if he put it down in writing and gave it to her?” 8 Jesus said to them, “Because of your hard hearts Moses allowed you to divorce your wives.

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    Marriage was between man woman and God, only relatively recently did church and state hijack marriages as another way to control the population. And as another source of revenue. Slavery isn't condemned anywhere in the Bible but then it still exists everywhere, we're all wage and or tax slaves. Freedom in this world is an illusion, or why is it that only the super rich don't pay tax at all.

  • Rivergang
    Rivergang

    I would hardly consider as "timeless" any system that once permitted such activities as polygamy and concubinage - yet later practically condemned a man for even thinking about such things. (Then again, perhaps it is a just bit too much for a busted-@$$ electrician like myself to take in!)

  • liam
    liam
    Drearyweather
    Are you sure you are referring to the right scripture?

    My bad, mistyped

    Exodus 21:10 If he takes an additional wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife.

  • liam
    liam
    Sea Breeze; You titled this thread 1st Century Advice, then you switch to the OT.

    I’m sorry about that Sea Breeze, I assumed that you like most Christians consider the entire bible as the word of the Father of Jesus. Most Christians that I know believe that the Father of Jesus does not change with time or cultures In other words, the Law God instituted in the OT should be the same as the 1st Century.

    if God's laws transcends Time, Space, and Cultures, It shouldn’t be different if he is the same God, It shouldn't change one bit, otherwise the entire bible is of no practical importance and totally irrelevant.

    Malachi 3:6 “For I the Lord do not change

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    In the OT was polygamy allowed for the purpose of filling the earth, and later growing the Israelite nation? Like a massive breeding programme?

    No longer needed once the Jews were rejected so back to one wife like Adam!

  • liam
    liam

    polygamy allowed for the purpose of filling the earth, and later growing the Israelite nation?
    Polygamy was not necessary to fill the earth. All that was needed was patience and time.

    Was God in a Hurry? Or was it that God didn't know anything about exponential growth?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLLKnLKAg-g

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    I think you are conflating a few issues here. No fault divorce allows for very easy no-proof allegations against men which strip them and children of their rights in favor of women. It has led to massive rise in divorce rates and child abuse (especially maternal), which isn’t good for children and the US is facing a reproduction crisis.

    Basically the way it works right now if someone is abusing their spouse, one can file and even if he files for a divorce with cause, the partner can counter for no-fault and the default no-fault is accepted, which throws away any repercussions, subsequently any rights to alimony, child support and visitations must now be litigated without judgment of prior actions (you cannot (rightfully so) bring prior spousal disagreement issues into child support and visitation cases).

    Re-establishing a way for people to find a divorce judgment and have that be adjudicated is a good thing imho. It makes it that marriage will be much more carefully considered and getting out will be meaningful. It will also punish abusive spouses more often.

    I don’t see, if you care for human rights and child protection that this is a bad thing.

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