Jehovah is Satan

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  MeanMrMustard

  Hola David_Jay,

  Sure. But I don’t think it matters if you consider Jesus as YHWH or not. Even if you don’t be believe Jesus is YHWH, or even of you think the entire thing is a story myth. It doesn’t matter because you have to at least explain the internal contradiction if you are keen on this theory of OT YHWH = Satan.

  Jesus, the good guy, identified himself with the OT YHWH. Whatever your beliefs on the nature of Jesus, it presents a bit of an issue for the theory, eh?

  Seems to me if you want to say OT YHWH = Satan, then you at least put Jesus in Satan’s camp.
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  Old Navy

  We must remember that the Southern Kingdom was removed from the land and delivered to Babylon under exile for a reason. What was the reason?

  Numbers 23:19

  God is not man, that he should lie,
  or a son of man, that he should change his mind.
  Has he said, and will he not do it?
  Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

  Presently there are many things which are a mystery to us.

  One day we shall all know positively how things really are.
  
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  David_Jay

  MeanMrMustard,

  Of course you must realize that as a Jew I don't even accept Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah, so I am merely speaking about how the argument of the YouTube producer works.

  The YouTube video producer advanced Jesus as different than Satan, while at the same time advancing the idea that Satan is the God of the Old Testament.

  That is the paradox the producer had made for himself: The claim to be for Jesus but against Satan, while Jesus claims to be the Incarnation of the Old Testament God. If this is so, the video producer has created a paradox in which they are therefore making an argument in favor for worshipping Satan, albeit unintentionally.

  Whether a person considers Jesus to be YHWH was not the point exactly. The point was that the argument was actually self condemning without the author realizing it.
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  MeanMrMustard

  @David_Jay:

  Yes, we are basically saying the same thing - mainly the YouTuber’s argument has internal inconsistencies. As you say - it is self defeating.

  Cheers!
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  MeanMrMustard

  @Old Navy: We must also remember that when the Southern Kingdom was removed from the land, many people went without decent underwear.
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  Old Navy

  That is probably so. Forced exiles are generally uncomfortable propositions.

  But while in Babylon many did prosper. And adapt. And learn.

  The Babylonian Experience left an indelible "mark."