U F O

by Tallyman 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • ianao
    ianao

    JanH:

    I thought that spin commentary was another brilliant example of "rationalizing the big bad monsters away".

    Some of us enjoy our illusions, don't we?

  • professor
    professor

    Most thinking persons know that the Freemasons, (a universal organization run by aliens) have control over much of humanity, including the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. Of course, the Society creates a smokescreen and denies this fact. They are only doing what they are told by these spiritual hosts of wickedness, who are able to hide the truth of their existence from certain less intelligent humans. (Ephesians 6:12)

  • hippikon
    hippikon

    Thank you professor now over to the BBC on this breaking news

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_124000/124854.stm

    An international team of scientists investigating UFOs has concluded that they are are interesting and deserve further study. But our science editor Dr David Whitehouse explains why he does not believe that UFOs are alien spacecraft.
    Any far and open-minded scientist would agree that UFOs should be studied. We do not know everything about our planet's atmosphere and there must be rare phenomena yet to be discovered.
    But the thing that has frightened many scientists away from such a sensible attitude towards UFOs is that most people think that a UFO is the same thing as a flying saucer.
    I would like to believe that our planet is being visited by aliens but I cannot.
    Why is it that all of the thousands of photographs and videos purporting to be of 'flying saucers' are out of focus? Surely someone must have taken a close and detailed picture?
    Ask an advocate for evidence that aliens have landed and you will get one of two things in reply. You will get stories and you will get excuses.
    Some of the stories are interesting. You can talk to people who say they have been for a ride in an alien spaceship, some of them claim to have been molested and experimented on by aliens.
    But a story is just a story. I cannot believe them unless there is supporting evidence.
    Then there are the excuses. When you ask for proof that our world is being visited by aliens you get all sorts of reasons why such evidence exists but cannot be produced.
    It is a cover-up they say. We did have evidence but it was stolen by government agents who are part of a great plot by the authorities to conceal the truth.
    We have all heard about the claims that alien bodies are stored in deep-freeze in a secret vault in a United States Air Force base. Supposedly they have been there for 50 years following a flying saucer crash. It has been kept secret ever since.
    Well not quite. It is so hush-hush that we all know about it. Questions should obviously be asked about the United States Air Force's ability to keep a secret.
    What is lacking is tough-mindedness and an attitude that remarkable claims require remarkable evidence.
    I will not believe it unless someone produces an artefact that cannot be man-made; unless someone can pass on information about the universe that we did not know and can be verified.
    Or unless they land on the Whitehouse lawn - either the one in the United States, or mine.

  • professor
    professor

    Like Prince, Dr. David Whitehouse is also a WANKER. Remember: only the dim-witts are unable to see the truth regarding aliens and the Freemason connection. Didn't you see "Eyes Wide Shut"? Duh.

  • hippikon
    hippikon

    And wanker would be a scientific term then?

  • professor
    professor

    Now you're getting it!

  • riz
    riz

    If I may, Professor,

    I believe the scientific term is Wankerus Majorus.

    riz

    Insanity in individuals is something rare- but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. - Nietzsche

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Hippi,

    Hoax abound around this "modern mythology", but this phenomenon goes back to the ancients and has assumed culturally appropriate guises for whatever era in which it has popped-up.

    Keep that healthy skepticism, but I don't get the "deja vu about this", you feel. And why do you figure the Disclosure of "Extraterrestrials" would be compatible with atheism?
    My guess is that any such Disclosure would rock the boat of atheists, religionists, secularists, etc., ... 'nother words, ACROSS THE BOARD ROCKING THE WORLDVIEW of EVER ONE!

    "Why wasn't this on the 6 o'clock news?", you ask?

    DannyBoy Rather would be the very last to report the existence of "Others".

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    neyank,

    So you are familiar with "The Kingdom of Nye"?
    Me too! 'course, I'm an Insomniac.

    Those gigantic craft spotted around the globe... what's your bet
    they are the work of Black Ops Projects using a suppressed technology?

    "What would we say to someone that told us that they have seen a UFO?", you ask.

    They get razzed and dismissed. If they are ridiculed, it's way easier to pretend the phenomenon is imaginary. Those who heap the most ridicule, I think, are the most frightened of the Unknown. They probably 'whistle when they walk through the cemetery'.

    "Did they have anything to do with the early religions?"

    Call aliens by the term "Discarnate Entities", and it might be easier to see their influence in religions.

    "Could it all be a hoax?"

    No, not ALL of it.

    "Interesting indeed."

    Indeed.

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    ianao,

    "It's really good to see this stuff come out into the open."

    High Time!

    Thanks for all the swell links!

    Looks like the major media can ignore a major story for only so long.

    "(I knew there was a reason to blank out most of the info on the Blue Book documents when they were declassifed!)"

    I've seen that! Not just single lines were blacked out, but WHOLE pages were solid black.

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    Riz and Perfesser,

    ... y'all are so Goofy! heeee.

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    JanH,

    We have GOTS to get you to believe in SOMETHING!

    You were going to tell me how your recent ride in that Flying Kraft went.

    K'mon, details!

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    UnkB,

    That AWAKE! magazine with feature on UFOs is the real deal.

    I think it was some kind of response to the widespread sightings
    of the 'Westchester Wing' in the mid-Hudson Valley near WTFarms.

    The closest town, Pine Bush, was deluged with the curious and sighter s
    and was called one of the top 'UFO Hot Spots' in the world
    for several years. It was the subject of several books.

    My guess, is that many of the Fanatix were quizzing the Kult
    about what's goin' on? what's the deal with these strange sightings?

    So, the WTS at some point, HAD to print a response.
    (my speculation, of course)

    "I was born and raised close to Australia s area 51. (note the recent unmanned flight from area 51, which doesn't exist, to WRE (weapons reasearch establishment)"

    Unk, isn't the "Australian Area 51" in Alice Springs, and hasn't the USGovernment
    sunk a LOT of US Tax Dollars into it??

    "Contrary to popular jibing most UFO sightings come from very credible witnesses, trained observers like airline pilots and astronomers."

    Thank you. Maybe JanH will read that...

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    d0rkyd00d,

    "Actually, if everybody remembers correctly, aliens may have already been found. remember the possible fossils of those small bacterial worms on mars?"

    Did you read what Sir Arthur C. Clarke observed recently about the LARGE Worms on Mars? Velly interesting, considering who's making the comment.

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    metatron,

    Hey, isn't "metatron" the Entity who inspired Carlos Santana
    and his Grammy-winning "Supernatural" CD?

    "On the other hand, I realize that it might be the
    most ethical thing to do to keep the matter away from
    full disclosure. Many people are not prepared for proof
    of extraterrestrial life (like The War of the Worlds panic)."

    Could not disagree more.
    Who has the right to decide what the public should or should not know?
    Let the people decide if they are ready to know what has long been
    kept hidden. Most people are curious and not Ostriches.
    I'm against censorship, and especially against the suppression
    of something so potentially important to the world.

    "The French government issued an amazing
    private report a couple years back (the "Cometa" report)
    that criticized US secrecy and said an ET explanation
    for UFOs was the most likely hypothesis."

    Have you ever read "The Brookings Institute Report" commissioned
    by NASA in 1960, and its finding that the public would be put into
    a panic at the Disclosure of the existence of aliens, either by
    actual contact or the discovery of alien artifacts in our
    Solar System?

    Here it is:

    * http://www.enterprisemission.com/brooking.html

    Do you have any kind of link for the "Cometa Report"?

    "Now that, would be an interesting way for the WTS to end!"

    Yeah, or the WTS could jump on a bandwagon, and say: "See? we were right all along. "New Light" from "Old Light"! Decades ago, we reported that jehovah was an alien! who lived in the Pleiadian star system on Alcyone and had his emissaries travel back and forth to Earth in starships to enlighten those who composed the 144,000 faithful ones who were glad to channel the alien/angelic transmitters of The One True Knowledge, ... or some such. Look it Up! It's in our books."

  • Introspection
    Introspection

    Well, while this kind of stuff may be witty sarcasm, it is pretty close to a strawman argument. No doubt the people who believe in aliens and such have different opinions about the specifics, so to argue this or that "scenario" is kind of pointless. I just don't see the need for an opinion either way, but if there's any good data I'll look at it. What is interesting to me is why people tend to form an opinion immediately when they hear something, sometimes before they have all the information.. To me it's a matter of being selective, I just have to make time for some things and not others.

    1. Intelligent creatures have piloted spaceships across trillions of miles in response to our discovery of nuclear weaponry. They hide, except when they decide to show themselves. Secret forces within our government have masterfully covered up the alien presence for half a century, duping the media and the scientific community, although sometimes the cover-up is imperfect, which is why, at Safeway, you can buy Chef Boyardee Flying Saucers & Aliens canned pasta. People like Steven Greer, the crusading emergency room physician, have seen through the lies and are going to help us reach the era of cosmic brotherhood.

    2. Some people believe in things that aren't actually true.

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    What is interesting to me is why people tend to form an opinion immediately when they hear something, sometimes before they have all the information.

    Intro, there is such a High Strangeness factor to this enigma,
    there are some who conjecture it cannot be understood...
    but I'd still like to see mainstream science give it a hard look.

    Me? I've been interested in folklore, legend, mythology, oral traditions, etc., for as long as I can remember. I think, since the crib.

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