Things which must shortly take place!

by PJ Delaney 23 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Ireneus
    Ireneus

    Mat 24:34 might never have been uttered by Jesus. If he did, he would have said: "the generation that would see the fulfillment of all these things Will not pass away"

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    Ireneus - sadly, most JW's (as most of us did!) adopt the org's perverted interpretation of what certain scriptures say, rather than what is actually written in black & white.

    Jesus is recorded as saying, "Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."

    He did not say "that generation", as if describing a generation 2000 years in the future; he said "this generation", pointing to his 1st century audience's generation.

    And to confirm there could not be an alleged "greater fulfilment" of his prophecy, he said, "For then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.

    "No, nor will occur again" means that it was never going to happen again.

    At Colossians 1:23, Paul wrote that the good news (Matt.24:14) had now been preached in all the earth.

    Mr Clarke's Commentary is very informative on the whole topic of Matthew 24. https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/matthew-24.html


  • Ireneus
    Ireneus

    The Fall Guy,
    What you said is true. In the first century, Christians understood end of
    all ages would happen in their generation: "These things happened to them
    as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the
    culmination of the ages has come" (1 Cor 10:11) about which Jesus
    described "such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now,
    no, nor will occur again"

  • The Fall Guy
    The Fall Guy

    LOL Just came across this;

    w94 2/15 p. 20 - “What Jesus spoke of as “great tribulation” and “a tribulation” in its first application (Jesus was so wrong in claiming it would never occur again!!!!) was the destruction of the Jewish system. But in verses that apply only to our day, he used the definite article “the,” saying “the tribulation.” (Matthew 24:21, 29; Mark 13:19, 24) Revelation 7:14 termed this future event “the great tribulation,” literally “the tribulation the great.””

    JW's - Is this 'future' GT the same one spoken of earlier (in context) at Revelation 2:22, or as the WTBTS teaches, the one described at Matthew 24:21 which Jesus promised would never be repeated? Use your perceptive powers.

    Tell a lie often enough and it'll be accepted as truth!

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