Netscrape is dead !

by Simon 20 Replies latest social current

  • Simon
    Simon

    ... and it's long overdue IMHO

    AOL have agreed to license IE for the forseeable future (at least 7 years) and have also signed up for Media Player 9 which must represent a major blow to Real Player and Apple. The two companies have also agreed to cooperate on IM which should be good news for all of us (I guess Yahoo won't have any option but to cooperate also or be left out)

    http://news.com.com/2100-1032-1011356.html?tag=nl

    Rest in peace Netscrape.

    I bet AOL regret paying $5billion for them now !

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    R.I.P. Netscrape.

    I fantasize for the day to see when AO-Hell is eradicated from existence.

    Regarding Media Player 9 being a blow to Real Player and Apple, I don't know, Quicktime is better than both IMHO.

  • Gamaliel
    Gamaliel

    Simon,

    I agree that choices and compatibility gets easier as Microsoft wins, and I welcome it. But still...

    AOL paid mostly in "counterfeit" inflated money, but the Netscape browser was always a "loss leader" anyway for Netscape in their attempt to gain more name recognition for their server software, directory services, portal offerings, etc. Microsoft reminds me of US politics: we don't care how we got our "global" monopoly, historically, as long as we're all comfortable with the benefits.

    Gamaliel

  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    It's not "Netscrape", it's "Nutscrape"! I tell you!

    Yizuman

  • Simon
    Simon

    I know many will disagree, but I think computing is one industry where we needed "monopoly" companies to set standards.

    People forget how it used to be when nothing worked with anything else.

    The monopoly power becomes less important now that things are stabilising and standards are being set etc... but while things are developing it is better for someone to win and win quickly so everyone can then standardise and save time and money.

    I think the only reason AOL bought Netscape was for the possibly legal threats they may want to try against MS. A bad reason IMHO.

    It is very similar to how another big competitor to MS went wrong: Wordperfect. They got snapped up by the then dominant Novell who ran them into the ground and removed it as any viable threat to Word / Office.

    I think Microsoft write some good software, despite what many people claim (yes, they do make gaffs though) but many times their competitors really "do it to themselves".

    One of Netscapes problems is that they clung to an old buggy code base (ironically, the same base that IE came from - MS licensed the same code that Netscape 'misappropriated') whereas MS had the resources to re-write with version 3 and then overtook NS with version 4. By 5+ it was all over.

    Hopefully, people will abandon Netscape and maybe give Opera the attention it deserves.

  • gitasatsangha
    gitasatsangha

    Linux Lives. IE is not welcome there.

  • Valis
    Valis
    People forget how it used to be when nothing worked with anything else.

    *LOL* Simon...you don't even know the half of it! I did technical support over the phone for Compuserve, and helped start the first technical support knowledge base for Netscape Corp way back when....I remember when dialup networking barely worked, especially with early modems that puked when using the UART....if only there had been standards way back then...then game might look a lot different now....ah the memories....argh!Oh and the people trying to connect to Compuserve w/a brother Typewriter and a 2400 baud modem.......just shoot me now..

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • No Apologies
    No Apologies

    Gamaliel,

    Your statements re compatibility and choice makes no sense. Do you mean having fewer choices is a good thing??? If so I must disagree.

    Simon, re "nothing worked with anything else",

    the solution to this problem is not giving Microsoft a monopoly, its getting rid of proprietary standards. Word Processor X doesn't work with Spreadsheet Y because the source code and APIs are locked up and hidden. That's why Open Source rules!!!!! lol

    I do agree that many of Microsoft's competiters have done a fine job of shooting themselves in the foot(WordPerfect, Lotus, Netscape, Borland). These companies complain that Microsoft had an unfair advantage because they had access to Windows source code, but how do they explain Microsoft Office for Mac???

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    I believe the trend against Netscape started in a short period where they started charging for the browser in maybe '95 (??). Even if that didn't do it, the long gap between Netscape 4 and its succesor allowed Microsoft to put Explorer so far ahead there was no hope.

    It's a bit like Apple licensing key elements of Windows (tiling) to Microsoft.

    Microsoft was just smarter; definately not better, but smarter at business than their competitors.

    Reborn: Quicktime is made by Apple; Pom will probably now think we're arguing with ourselves...

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    The most absurd thing about this is that Microsoft is letting AOL use its browser royalty-free as part of a settlement for the lawsuit AOL-Netscape-Time-Warner or whoever brought against Microsoft for being "anti-competitive" (i.e. having a better product).

    See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2948672.stm

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