Hi Stephen, greetings to you,
Isn't it truly great to be able to disagree? What a freedom huh? :)
i dont agree........
whether he deserves to die is irrelevant...
When I read the Bible Stephen, to me it is the only relevancy. It is the conflict of a haughty testy spirit creature who thought he could get away with it all. Why? Because of love. Become the Devil's advocate. (I use this technique a lot.) Satan would use love against the Creator. How? Satan would argue "A God of Love can't take away life, because that's NOT love..." So, he would think he was untouchable...It was when Satan became guilty of the death of Christ that he became a Law breaker deserving of death. That is what the Mosaic Law was all about.
far as you know satan has been here...
True as the Bible says.
show me from a biblical text where he wont be...
Surely. There tons that show he is doomed. Here are some texts to show the picture:
Gen 3:14
14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this...
Gen 3:15
...he will crush your head,
Num 21:8
8 The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole;
Judg 4:21-22
21 But Jael, Heber's wife, picked up a tent peg and a hammer and went quietly to him while he lay fast asleep, exhausted. She drove the peg through his temple into the ground, and he died.
22 Barak came by in pursuit of Sisera, and Jael went out to meet him. "Come," she said, "I will show you the man you're looking for." So he went in with her, and there lay Sisera with the tent peg through his temple-dead.
Zech 10:4
4 From Judah will come the cornerstone,
from him the tent peg,
A crushed head means what? Christ dies on a cross, the snake dies on what according to what Moses made? Jael pictures God the Father, and what does she do with a tent peg to Sisera's skull? If you were to nail a snake to a pole, where would the nail go? The head seems like a convient place right? What would happen to the head of a snake with a nail through it? CRUSHED. Zechariah plainly calls Christ Jesus the TENT PEG. The tent peg is the tool by which the Father was to KILL SATAN THE DEVIL out of existence. Why?
John 8:44
He was a murderer from the beginning,
John 19:11
11 Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."
Jesus is telling Pilate that Satan is the one guilty of his murder, the "greater sin." The Law will be released from man when Christ dies, and the noose of the Law will be thrown around the Devil's neck. The Law is released on man and enforced on Satan.
My understanding of course.
Good day crossroads
Pom seems to me by the way you describe things
GOD is the one most responsible for Christ death
not satan. He created man so man could go the wrong
way so his son would have to come and save the day.
HMMMMM seems like very logical convuleted thinking
to me. Do not eat of that tree even though I know you
will heehee. Then I'm going to make all your offspring
suffer such things as you can't even imagine yet.
All though it is not I causing these things you did it
yourself and round and round it goes.
You see, once you start getting closer to the story, there is a tendency to put the blame on God. Everything bad in the world is a result of Satan not God. Once Satan came into being as bad, is God wrong for creating the fix? Is God wrong for forseeing EVERYTHING that will happen in order for ALL things to become one under HIM again? Are you upset that you have been detoured? Why? Detours are temporary. The suffering is temporary...
Two things in the Bible point to the way you are thinking. Your thinking would image these statements: How could God create while Satan was in bad mode? If Satan was there while God was creating the fix, God is bad for creating man to go wrong. God is bad for predestining His Son to death. God is bad for forknowing all the bad things that were to come.
The jews would have the same thoughts. God answered them two ways about the seven days of His physical creation while Satan was looking on:
Ex 12:19-20
19 For seven days no yeast is to be found in your houses. And whoever eats anything with yeast in it must be cut off from the community of Israel, whether he is an alien or native-born.
Seven days, no yeast. Everything God created was good, even though He knew it was going to get soiled with corruption. Omniscience in God is active because of Satan. After Satan rebelled, ALL THINGS are known by God. The Good and the Evil.
The lampstand had seven lights. Each light represents a "day". Each day was a day of Good creation. Light. There is no darkness in God AT ALL even though He knew the spiritual yeast would corrupt. Don't you see? Bad things will continue to be and the bad can be destroyed.
It has to be.
Why does everybody think GOD has an ego. He knows
He is GOD he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone
especially satan and his followers.
It isn't a matter of proving anything. It was a matter of getting Satan to be guilty of a sin that was worthy of death. That crime was the death of Jesus. God's son. Who WAS God in nature in the heavens.
As for us we are the Lords and what He decides will happen will. Satan never thought he was going to be GOD he just wanted to rule mankind instead of mankind ruling itself.
Not according to Ezekial. Not according to his deceptive ploy on Eve.
God's number one job is to rid the world of the darkness.
It shall be done.
peave and love to you both.
pomegranate
