"Eyewitness" testimony is about as accurate as Jehovah's Witness testimony, for sure.
What actually happened AFTER Jesus zoomed up into the clouds and disappeared?
by TerryWalstrom 23 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Finkelstein
Why is it that in the endeavoring drive toward spirituality, one has to accept lies, bullshit fabrication, ignorance and illogical stupidity made by mortal men ?
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waton
Hopefully the materialized body reached escape velocities*** to travel to "The Throne", shed the "flesh and blood that can not inherit the kingdom" , present the "ransom value" and get back 10 days later for Pentecost, to present the "sign", the HS, still hot from re-entry, like flames.
*** not necessarily 7 miles /second
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TerryWalstrom
I'd forgotten about how weird the JW resurrection doctrine really is; thanks for reminding me :)
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jookbeard
exactly the same with other mad fables and tales from the book of fiction from the so called holy bible; nothing
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EverApostate
Jesus got spoiled with the luxuries of heaven and is not coming back as promised.
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Finkelstein
The or (a) messianic savior was ideologically expressed by many ancient civilizations around the middle east, not just by the Hebrews alone and those who identified themselves as Christians.
Most likely this came about by the ancients observing the moon at night thinking a New God is coming to arrive to save mankind of its enduring perils.
Most of ancient mythology is born out human ignorance but with a wanting social appeal.
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TTWSYF
"Eyewitness" testimony is about as accurate as Jehovah's Witness testimony, for sure.
Wish I could agree, but Witnesses employ Theocratic warfare [aka 'Lying for the Truth'tm]
Eye witness testimony tends to cross over to people of different beliefs so their witness to specific events are considered more reliable.
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waton
Why were later departures into space moved to Florida, Russia, China, India?
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TTWSYF
The Jesus believers were meeting in people's homes. Members of that community would take turns using private homes to gather. Thus, they went house to house.
These footstep tracers of Jesus (they called themselves Akolouthontes "followers" or some called themselves Mathetai or "learners.") were puzzling out what it meant to follow Jesus. Who was he...really? Was he going to return? Why? When?
Each was curious about the others. Maybe somebody else knew something they didn't? They sought each other out....with questions...
If somebody brought word that another house in another town had Akolouthontes or Mathetai a person would be appointed as an emissary. These emissaries were called Apostles. The job of an apostle was to contact other believers and create a network with them.
This is quite incorrect. There were many who had met Jesus and tried to follow his ways. They were called disciples. They were not a religion, just different people who met Jesus or heard of him and put their limited knowledge of Jesus and his teachings into their lives. Not a bad thing, just not a religion.
Jesus did start a church and commissioned his [12] apostles to start it and promote the growth of His church by doing ALL that Jesus had commanded, not just some of what he commanded. This is known by how each of the apostles started to grow His church with consistently similar teachings and sacraments. It's called history. Door to door? Maybe that happened, but that's not how His church grew. Just saying....cause its's true