My mother, the elder...(No, I'm not kidding)

by logansrun 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    One of the more unusual secrets in my family is the fact that for years my mother has written every talk my grandfather -- an elder, the service overseer -- has given from the platform.

    A little background: my grandfather was appointed ever since the elder arrangement was put in place in the early 70's. He's originally from Poland and his English is decent, but not great. When he started to give public talks (or any talks, for that matter) he would ask my mother for some assistance in how he should say things grammatically. My mother would also type his talks for him as he dictated to her. Fair enough. Well, over the years my mother's "input" became greater and greater as my grandfather got older. Well, it got to the point where, for about the last twelve years or so, my mother has produced the talks completely on her own! Here's how it works: my grandfather simply informs my mother he has a talk coming up and she writes it for him -- en toto.

    Now, this is all very understandable, mind you. My grandfather is going to be ninety years old this year and, giving ten to twenty minute talks is not something the average person in his age group is doing (he no longer gives public talks). But, I'm sure if his fellow elders (or the CO!) found out that the two talks he gives each month, as well as all his service talks, were the complete work of a fifty year old sister, well, I think that would raise some eyebrows!

    Actually, I think it's kinda cool. My mom, the "secret elderess." HA!

    Bradley (so, the question is, does she have Jehoober's Spirit in all this?)

  • Aztec
    Aztec

    That's pretty cool Bradley! I'm starting to like your mother more and more!

    ~Aztec

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Yes, my mother can be cool. She also can be a whaked-out, philosophical ignoramus, but I still love her.

    Bradley (you would HATE (and I mean HATE) my older sister, though

    Bradley

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    My mom could disfellowship your mom.

  • dedalus
    dedalus

    Pretty cool, Logansrun! Puts the whole "headship arrangement" in perspective, doesn't it? But then, I think most of us men need some bucking up by our women. They're stronger than we are.

    Dedalus

  • myself
    myself

    Bradley, does she have to wear a headcovering when composing these talks?

  • Scully
    Scully

    I really wonder if this is widely practiced among JWs, especially when you see poorly educated men paired up with a really smart wife; or as logansrun pointed out, where there are language barriers and fathers ask for help from their daughters.

    I used to help my husband with his talks when we were first married. He asked for my input, and I would give it. It wasn't about me doing the talk for him, or tricking the congregation into believing he was a better public speaker than he actually was, it was about him wanting to give the best talk he could - we were supposed to be doing "all things for God's glory", and "giving a good witness". Plus you were being graded by the School Overseer, and getting W's all the time instead of G's wasn't the best motivator. So I helped.

    Over time, however, it got to the point where he would just hand me the assignment slip at home after the School Overseer gave it to him, and it was just expected that I would do the talk for him. I really resented that, because it became just another "chore" that I had to do, and he wasn't willing to put any effort into it other than picking out a tie to wear on the platform. I informed him that I wasn't going to "help" him anymore unless he prepared the talk himself and had me double-check it for grammar and and doctrinal accuracy, whereupon he promptly resigned from the School. (I compared it to him doing the kids' homework for them, without expecting them to at least try to do it themselves. He disagreed.)

    Apparently his quitting the School was "my" fault.

    Love, Scully

  • dedalus
    dedalus

    Better watch that Jezebel attitude, Scully!

    Dedalus

  • wannaexit
    wannaexit

    Once I re-wrote a talk my father gave at a circuit assembly. It was fun.

  • Anne
    Anne

    I used to "help" my hubby with his talks too. After we were married they told him his talks greatly improved.

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