We helped a boy in a car crash last night...made us think about things

by LyinEyes 27 Replies latest jw friends

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  DFWnonJW

  Three cheers for Lyin' Eye's and hubby!!

  I got the impression from reading your account that you were the epitome of coolheadedness. I'd like to think I'd react the same way but so far haven't been tested :) Just wanted to say way to go and I hope the young man is going to be ok. I bet he'd like to thank you too.

  I remember hearing stories at the hall like the ones you mentioned. Always geared to make you feel guilty for missing any meeting but I remember hearing how a bomb went off in a KH one time and a sister was killed. I have ever since been of the opinion "What if she HAD missed that meeting? She'd STILL be alive!" Turnabout being fair play and all. :)

  At one of the very last meetings I went to here in Irving, we were told of a jw family at a convention (in KC i think). There were several of the jw kids playing in/around the pool after (hours if I recall) and one of them unfortunately drowned. You'd think there would have been some real compassion shown for the families loss but nope. The kids were not supposed to be there and though it was "sad that a child died", the point was driven home on how the media got the story and what negative light it shown on "The Organisation". I sat there shaking my head thouroughly sickened at what I heard. Looking around there were lot's of people nodding in agreement and that was it. It was over for me.
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  LyinEyes

  Hey DFW,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hope to see ya next weekend ,,,,,,,,we are gonna be in DFW area,,,,,,,hehe. Will post more on that later , gator.

  I have had lotsssssssssssssssssssss of experience in first aid , with cuts........ I can work wonders with butterfly bandages and steristrips. My brother in law is a paramedic and gave me some real ER stripstips.......lol, 'cause my kids are always cutting themselves. We are not talking about little cuts but gashes,,,,,,,, but I hate to put them thru an ER visit for stitches if the steristrips will work as well and saves them the trauma of the needles etc. I have a first aid basket here so everyone knows where it is at and it has all we need in case of emergency. Thank goodness I live a mile from the hospital. So far we have only had to use the basket lately.
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  rocketman

  Some guy just wrote into my local paper's editorial section that he was hit by a car while riding his bike. He said "I feel that God is watching over me, because I did not get seriously hurt" (he had a couple broken bones and some scrapes.

  I have trouble seeing how some people say that God is "watching over them". First of all, if God was watching, why did the guy get hit in the first place? And second, why did God pick him to watch over - what about the thousands of people who do get seriously hurt or die each day in accidents?

  Dede, you're a good person, very thoughtful and kind.
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  LyinEyes

  I understand what you are saying Rocketman, I dont think God chooses who gets hurt, dies or lives IMO.

  I had alot of trouble with my last baby, and there were other women there who did lose their babies, mine lived and I was so releived that I had my baby even thou he was very sick. But not once did , I even as I was a JW back then, think that God had helped my son to live, that just didnt seem fair for one thing and I just have never thought God intervened in these kinds of matters.

  I think you can gain strength thru prayer from God when you need it thou. But I don't think he answers you prayers to save a life , ya know. I don't know why it is this way, I know I don't understand the grand scheme of things God has.

  But it always bothered me like durning the 911 tragedy how some would say that God saved them out of the rubble , yet so many others died. I think they were just lucky, if that is the right word. I am sure they have faith and maybe they believe that,,,,,,, I just personally don't.

  I think that we can help each other and sometimes we are lucky and are in the right place at the right time. But I have seen it in my life where prayers didnt come true and people were not saved, so therefore I can't believe that God chooses to help others and chooses not to help some.
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  Billygoat

  (((((((((((((((((Dede and Denny))))))))))))))))

  You guys are awesome! And I'm so proud of you! But I know that you feel there is nothing to be proud of...that you did what you had to do. Which is why I think y'all are awesome.

  I had a similar experience not long after I left the Borg. It was at a Greek function at college. Some of the "hecklers" of the crowd (really drunk and mean college boys) got into a bronco and had a terrible wreck just off campus. My friends and I were the first ones on the scene. We didn't think twice about these guys having been throwing beers cans at us just 30 minutes earlier. We just knew we had to help them before the paramedics got there. Two of the three were unconcious and the third one couldn't remember his name. It was a really bad thing to witness. But upon leaving that scene, my "worldly" friends and I realized at that point the fragility of life. I'm proud of the way we reacted, considering how the jerks were treating us earlier. It also dawned on me that I didn't have one "you deserved it" thought in my head. We were just worried for their lives. I think most decent people would react the same way. Unfortunately, I don't imagine a lot of my old JW friends reacting that way. They were too self-centered.

  Andi
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  rocketman

  But it always bothered me like durning the 911 tragedy how some would say that God saved them out of the rubble , yet so many others died. I think they were just lucky, if that is the right word. I am sure they have faith and maybe they believe that,,,,,,, I just personally don't.

  I think that we can help each other and sometimes we are lucky and are in the right place at the right time. But I have seen it in my life where prayers didnt come true and people were not saved, so therefore I can't believe that God chooses to help others and chooses not to help some.

  The same stuff bothers me too. Take 9/11. So many died. Others were just plain lucky. I don't think God picks and chooses who lives or dies in such situations either. I look at it as just a random thing.
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  LyinEyes

  Exactly Rocketman.

  And ditto to you Billygoat,,,,,,,, I dont feel like I did anything out of the ordinary really...I think the basic human nature is good. Things like that just prove it to me and make me feel proud to be part of such a caring human race. I swear I know so many JW's who would have been judging that boy in the wreck, saying he should have been home studing his watchtower or getting rest for field service the next day. That is just plain self righteous and not at all the way Jesus would have reacted........things like this confirm that the JW's are wrong. Little things all the road of my JW exit , like this , prove to me that "worldly" people are not deserving of death as they say. ANd if they are,,,,,,,,,well I would want to die right along with all these "terrible worldly" people , in Armeggedon, if God is that judgmental...... Thank God , I don't feel that He is that way at all.

  Oh Billygoat,,,,,,,,, your hair has grown so much , it looks adorable......post a new pic ,,,,,,,,a bigger one so I can see it better..........hugs.and tell Mozzer hi.........hugssssssss dede
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  Billygoat

  Dede,

  Check your PM.

  Love,

  Andi