Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}

smiddy3

Because their are so many different God`s Worshiped in the world today and none of them have made themselves known to us in this 21st Century for all of mankind to see and verify .

All of the Gods worshiped today are from hundreds and even thousands of years ago derived from ancient writings and texts in languages that are no longer in use today.

That of course brings up problems of another sort translating an ancient language into its modern day equivalent.

And nobody is in total agreement that such translations are accurate or correct anyway.

And their is no God coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation. They are mute.

I`m not just talking about Christianity/ Judaism either, the same goes for all non Christian religions too.

Its a total cop out to say one must have faith to believe in God

"Faith, belief in religious doctrines divine truth without proof" and no verification from any God Christian/Islam/Judaism or otherwise .

venus

A Single Bible verse answers all your questions

“He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.” (Revelation 22:11)

This verse is actually history—people want to do what they like. Citizens of each country know what are crimes and what are their punishments, and this knowledge has no influence on many people. Most people worship greed which would mean provisions for enjoyment of life would get depleted/destroyed at some point in time. And God would make such provisions again (Mathew 19:28) because it is not more surprising for a thing to be performed twice (thrice ….any number of times) than once.

This means His role is only to recreate provisions for enjoyment of life. Then He goes into silence till the need arises for next recreation. That means He is interested only in doing favors to His children, and not interested in our response—gratitude/ingratitude, honor/dishonor. For Him it is all like a play; hence the word deum in Latin which means God, or divine one in English. In more ancient Language Sanskrit, the word for God is Dev, from div (meaning “to shine” or from diiv (meaning “to play).

smiddy3

people want to do what they like. Citizens of each country know what are crimes and what are their punishments, and this knowledge has no influence on many people. Most people worship greed which would mean provisions for enjoyment of life would get depleted/destroyed at some point in time.

I don`t think any body would argue too much about that as being what human nature can be about.

.But to quote a scripture out of the book of Revelation to rationalize that ?

Do you agree with every scripture in Revelation as a word of God that has relevance in the world today ? or not ?

Or is this just a cherry pick in this instance that suits your agenda .?

Would you quote the book of Revelation in other instances ?

I`m just trying to see where your coming from venus.

Perry

If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life - 1 John 5

Belief in God is related to the subject to unending life, because God is the First Cause, has life within himself and freely gives unending life to his children. I personally have such a knowing not only of God, but of my eternal security in him....all born again Christians have this. And I agree, that it must be a bit unnerving to unbelievers.

Materialists are required to deny that anything can be known except through that which is collected through the 5 senses. Here's three non religious examples of revelation.

“In a dream I saw a table where all the elements fell into place as required. Awakening, I immediately wrote it down on a piece of paper.” - DMITRI MENDELEEV, 1834 TO 1907 - Chemist who wrote the Periodic Table.

“While asleep, I had an unusual experience. There was a red screen formed by flowing blood, as it were. I was observing it. Suddenly a hand began to write on the screen. I became all attention. That hand wrote a number of elliptic integrals. They stuck to my mind. As soon as I woke up, I committed them to writing.”

SRINIVASA RAMANUJAN, 1887 TO 1920

Mathematician who produced almost 4,000 proofs, identities, conjectures and equations in pure mathematics. Although he died in 1920, the richness of his ideas and conjectures in fields such as Elliptic Functions and Number Theory – nearly all of which were correct – were ahead of his time, and continue to inspire and direct research carried out by mathematicians today.

In 1903 Otto Loewi had the thought that nerve signals were possibly transmitted using chemical instructions. He could not think of how he could prove his new idea.

In 1920 Loewi had a dream about the problem. He woke excitedly during the night and scribbled notes about the dream.

In the morning, he could not remember the dream, and he could not read his nocturnal notes either!

The following night, he dreamed about the problem again. The dream was about an experiment he could use to prove his idea, and this time he remembered it.

He carried out research based on his dream and published the work in 1921, establishing that signalling across synapses was indeed chemical, as he had suspected.

The father of neuroscience, in 1936 was awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine for work that came to him in a dream!

A revelation is proved true or not if the thing predicted comes true. Saving faith in Jesus Christ produces peace, and a number of other things promised in the NT. I have personally experienced this over the past 15 years or so. I have seen the same results in the half dozen or so other people I have led to Christ as well.

God is real, and can be known on a personal level ..... through "revelation".

Finkelstein

The gods of the past had to occur for they were a necessity explanation or answer to how everything in universe existed and came to be.

Human ignorance is a indefensible fact.

That makes all ancient mythology fictional ie. the bible

Sanchy

Venus wrote: "This means His role is only to recreate provisions for enjoyment of life. Then He goes into silence till the need arises for next recreation. That means He is interested only in doing favors to His children, and not interested in our response—gratitude/ingratitude, honor/dishonor"

It's interesting how humans have to come up with excuses for why God seems to be completely missing in action. The result is convoluted God(s) that act irrationally and make no sense.

Vanderhoven7

Futile...yes.

Belief in the existence or non-existence of God is not what is important. Even the devils believe. However. whether God exists or not is of critical important.

My take:

Its not...God's Word says it. I believe it. That settles it.

It is..... God's Word says it. That settles it.

redvip2000

And their is no God coming to the rescue of translators to say which is the right interpretation. They are mute.

Of course... even the worse of human authors will go back to this writings to make sure it's current or to translate it to more languages.

Now God, who supposedly created the most important book ever, has to rely on dubious translations and human decision of which books go in the bible? Everybody should see this could never be.

God is a human invention of ancient humans who in their own ignorance, looked around them, and wanted to be able to explain them. And yes, we still have those folks around.

Finkelstein

It is..... God's Word says it. That settles it.

Problem is though it is man that has said this statement with no other evidence , proving or verifying that only man exists.

venus

smiddy3

That verse/statement is true where ever it is found, it is well known because it is also in the Revelation Book, hence I quoted. It doesn't mean every other verse in the Revelation or Bible is true.

Further it matches with what we expect from elevated personality like God. God need to give us only sustenance and provisions for life's enjoyment. Management also if He handles it would reduce us into robots.

Why a Belief or Non Belief in the existence of "A God" or "The God" is Futile {In My Opinion}

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