Watchtower 1974 says FAT Brothers will be disfellowshiped and not enter Paradise!!!

Witness 007

Someone at Bethel dinning room was hogging all the bread rolls!!! Would a brother on the writting dep. dare vent his frustration thru the Spiritual food our Watchtower??? YEP!

Watchtower 1974p.167 "By over indulging in food he fails to show love for Jehovah. Is food a big thing in his life? Does he selfishly ignore the needs of others and take more than his fair share? Is he grossely overweight but shows no restraint? He HAS NO PLACE IN THE CONGREGATION OF GOD...HE WILL NOT INHERIT GOD'S KINGDOM."

Watchtower 1978 12/15 p.9 "He may make it impossible for diners to eat to satisfaction. For this reason he may be dispised...THEY MAY SHUN HIM...GODS KINGDOM WILL BRING LAW DYFYING GLUTTONS TO AN END..."

_Morpheus

Two things:

1) the article didnt say "fat" people but rather gluttons. It was highlighting the attitude not the the weight or relative body mass.

2) you dont have to go back to 1974. The current elders book says the exact same thing. Its still, in 2015, a df'ing offense.

chicken little

Remember a very thin special pioneer couple that left bethel under a cloud (wife was very emotionally unstable, running up and down corridors screaming in her nightdress) they were accused of gluttony because they eat so much at gatherings where there was a buffet. My husband said a group of elders had to counsel them.

I wonder who counselled the elder who could eat so much pizza, at a take as you want restaurant, that the owners asked him not to come back!

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Brock Talon

Technically gluttony is a disfellowshipping sin. But I have yet to hear of anyone ever being disfellowshipped for it in the history of the Jehovah's Witness religion. I could be wrong here, but I would venture to say it is extremely rare and possibly never to have happened. Please, someone chime in if I am wrong and you know of someone who was disfellowshipped for gluttony or "greediness". (Not just counseled for it.) I'd love to hear that story.

I do agree that being "fat" alone isn't sufficient for the DF'ing because that can be attributed to other things besides gluttony. It's just medical science that it's more difficult to keep the weight off as we age due to our metabolism slowing down, our activity slowing down, and so on.

DF'ing for being fat is a slippery slope I seriously doubt any elder body would be willing to start walking on for a few reasons:

1. How would you define it? How much overweight is too much? Do we go by the technical BMI levels or something more than that? If more, how much fat is too fat deserving of expulsion?

2. So many JWs are overweight themselves, the question would be how many elder bodies are there where at least one of their own would not facing having themselves or a family member DFed?

3. This would be especially difficult in the U.S. where a huge percentage of the populate is overweight by strict technical BMI standards.

I had one elder when growing up who had a HUGE wife, I mean 400 pounds big. She had a very pretty face and actually was a very sweet lady too. He would brag about loving all of her "curves". He had book study at his house where he placed "Big Beautiful Woman" magazines everywhere so we could see them. They never hid that they both ate quite lavishly either, in fact, they bragged bout their "escargot parties" and so on. I never once heard a single discussion where either of them were on deck for DF'ing or even got a stern talking to or he was threatened with losing his privileges. I recall quite clearly my parents discussing it between themselves as they were puzzled that this could go on "in an elder's home".

This is part of the "selective sin" that JWs love to practice, where over eating and even over drinking is often looked the other way, but sexual sin has immediate and severe consequences.

sparky1

"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." 1 Peter 4:17 KJV.

BluesBrother

Yes, but the Bible says :

Deut. 31.20 . "For I shall bring them to the ground that I have sworn about* to their forefathers,+ which flows with milk and honey,+ and they will certainly eat+ and be satisfied and grow fat+"

Prov.11.25 "The generous soul* will itself be made fat,+ and the one freely watering [others] will himself also be freely watered"

Prov. 13 4 "However, the very soul of the diligent ones will be made fat"

Prov.28 25 "but he that is relying upon Jehovah will be made fat."

Just read that to the elders if they come funny with you.....

ttdtt

You are wrong there. I know of gluttons punished! Jabba the Hut was once a brother and after ignoring loving scriptural counsel, was Disfellowshipped. Sadly after that, the spirit of the world took hold of him leading him to a life of galactic crime and villainy.

Saintbertholdt

Watchtower 1974 says FAT Brothers will be disfellowshiped and not enter Paradise!!!

Exquisite! #fatshaming

sir82

LOL, that 1978 WT article was pretty clearly written by someone who was miffed at not getting enough bacon at the Bethel breakfast table.

Watchtower 1974 says FAT Brothers will be disfellowshiped and not enter Paradise!!!

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