This was a message I sent to a zealous witness in Chile who formerly had blocked me

by joe134cd 12 Replies latest jw experiences

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    Below is a message I sent to a witness in Chile. I have included it in its raw form with spelling mistakes included.

    I was deep in thought this evening so I thought I would ask you directly to get your honest opinion on it, and i guess if you block me then that's ok.

    Seriously were you totally unaware that the chilean flag is placed inside the kingdom halls to avoid having to pay a fine during Fiestas patrias celebrations (September 18-19). I mean the internet is just full of videos and pictures of kingdom halls flying the flag it would be a matter of ignorance to say they don't. What you have to remember here is very few witnesses know about this outside of chile, and i think many would be shocked if they did. Don't you think this is a bit of a double standard. I mean sure it was written in a bethel letter that they were just putting a flag up and as long as there was no ceremony behind it then they saw no problem with it. Well if that be true then it would be ok to to have a party and give presents on someone's birthday/Christmas, just as long that there is no celebration behind it because in reality I was just giving a present no observing the celebration. I hope you get my point. You could perhaps also appreciate how those witnesses back in the 1950s who were getting beaten up and been seriously mistreated because the would salute the flag would feel if they saw the saw the flag been flown outside the kingdom hall. It would be particularly insulting and even more so if they knew the main reason was just to get out of paying a fine. Anyway those were my thoughts.

    I just want your honest opinion that's all I ask. BTW I not trying to diminish your belief in God. I'm just trying to get a reasonable answer to what I consider to be something that goes totally against what I was taught as a JW.

  • Giordano
    Giordano

    His/her cult personality doesn't want to hear from you about this. He can't agree with you so he has blocked you.

    You attacked instead of asking.

    If there is ever a next time around use a different tactic. Don't get directly in this JW's face instead say that 'someone' asked you why the JW's in Chile fly their national flag in front of the KH's( as an example).

    Tell him you couldn't answer the question other then that the JW's respect their countries flag but do not have it as part of their KH or worship. Ask him if it's true or not.

    If they had replied with an answer your answer could have been a simple WOW!

    After that this person might have taken the time to think about it a little more.

  • Tenacious
    Tenacious

    So this person unblocked you after this note?

    As Giordano mentions, anything that even resembles an attach against their Org would immediately trigger their cult personality to block anything else you wrote down.

    The mind conditioning is incredible.

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd
    Gioradano= trust me what you mentioned was the first and foremost thing I tried. I then sent the letter from the society about it. Playing completely dumb and saying I found this letter from the bethel confirming it. And asking for his comment. I then got the reply of "no the kingdom halls don't fly the national flags in the kingdom hall" and was blocked. For some reason I just happened to accidently click on some old messages and found that I had been unblocked. So got friendly talking again. So thought maybe he knew something more. So asked again.
  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    The typical fundy's response to information that calls their beliefs into question...

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • steve2
    steve2
    Great letter joe. But, I suspect you will now be blocked a second time. Keep us posted though. Who knows - maybe your friend has had time to think this through and make his own inquiries and is disturbed enough to be less reactive towards you.
  • Actigall Ur
    Actigall Ur

    @Giordano- Exactly. You attract more flies with honey than vinegar!

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    The best way is to do this:

    "someone in the community (perhaps a 'return visit') asked me this________ and I wasn't sure how to answer them. Can you help me with this topic________?"

    Then we are not attacking, but are genuinely asking a sincere question.....

  • steve2
    steve2

    Then we are not attacking, but are genuinely asking a sincere question.....

    Certainly preferable to directly asking for a response. Yet, it has to be said that some JWs are so extremely sensitized/paranoid that they will immediately doubt it is anyone else's question/doubt/misgivng, but is yours and you are just trying to be sneaky.

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd
    Just an up date. Well as of this moment I havnt been blocked but as I predicted I have had no response even though my messanger tells me the message has at least been opened.

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