the 144,00.......the annointed

fairy

Are they chosen by god? and if they are then how come some of them fall away?

why would god choose them if they are going to fall away? you would think he would choose those who wouldnt.

does that mean he has made a mistake - a wrong decision?

Brummie

why would god choose them if they are going to fall away? you would think he would choose those who wouldnt.
does that mean he has made a mistake - a wrong decision?

A standard JW answer is that God chose not to forsee the future of men, he chose them at a time when they were faithful, the fact that they later rebelled does not mean that he made a mistake but rather that they made the mistake by rebelling! God purposely with-holds his knowledge (chooses to be ignorant).

Brummie

fairy

thanks for your answer ...........o' great one

Brummie

...........o' great one

You may rise... Brummie

plmkrzy

satan fell away

Country_Woman

so did the founder of mankind: Adam, and he was supposed to be "perfect"

onacruse

For a long time, the WTS held to the following opinion (emphasis added):

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All false Christs would necessarily be antichrists,
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because claiming to be anointed when in fact not having received the anointing. The antichrist would be claiming to do a work in the name of Christ, but in fact that work would not be according to God’s Word in announcing his kingdom and magnifying his name. John declares that these conditions would be evidence of the last hour. Then the apostle adds: “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us; but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” (1 John 2:19) This text clearly shows a separation going on during “the last hour.” Those going out from the anointed company would by their course of action show that they had not received the anointing. It should be expected that there would then be a separation between those who are really devoted to the Lord and those who claim to be devoted to the Lord but do not show a zeal for his cause.

That's a great way out of the paradox: they were never anointed to begin with.

Craig

yucca

The 144,000 are all virgin jewish men who will be preaching GODS word during the tribulation. Thats what GODS word saids in the bible. Which the GB reason out according to their will and change everything around.If they would give back GOD his control and will instead of their will they would have a better understanding of GODS word. They would not have a history of false prophecy. The God they worship cant do anything without the GB. The GOD I worship does not need my help at all.I dont have to clean up the earth after Armagaddon. My GOD did not disfellowship PETER when he denied Christ 3 times. My GOD told the women at the well to go and sin no more he did not disfellowship her. My GOD loved sinners and called pharisees snakes and vipers. Who are the pharisees of today its the GB head of the WTBTS. He who is without sin cast the first stone. I would not want to be in GB shoes on JUDGEMENT DAY.JESUS is going to spit them out of his mouth and say I never knew you. GB say theres no hell. They are wrong about that too. Thats going to be their address some day and even thats too good for them for all the damage and hurt they have done to people.

double_c

Sounds like your god is as bad as theirs.

Kenneson

Judas was a traitor, nevertheless chosen among the Twelve.

the 144,00.......the annointed

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