Simon pulling information from right wing biased anti Democratic Web sites isn't telling the whole truth to Obama's presidency . Obama did some good for the country, unfortunately some of those polices created more repression toward businesses causing a stumbling block for certain businesses to grow and flourish.
US violent crimes and murders rose in 2016, the FBI says
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Finkelstein
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captaingrl
simon, :applause:
Trump was shaky in the beginning and remain chaotic in some ways, but dammit he is getting things done. I expect O-care to go soon and the Democrats will then spend the next two years whining that this is the end of the world all while the country recovers by all other measures.
ISIS was defeated under Trump. North Korea is scared like they haven't been under any previous administration. The Iranian Mullahs are no longer getting Obummer welfare cash by the planeload and the regime is looking shaky.
The tide is turning towards self-reliance, real jobs, and real progress.
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captaingrl
Finkelstein, what good did he do?
North Korea got their nuclear program rolling. The economy was pumped up with fake jobs further strangling the working class. He stroked racial tension and used it to his advantage. Obummercare is socialism and payoff to insurance companies.
Trumps is getting hell for "undoing" obammas legacy, but let's face it, that's whats needed.
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Finkelstein
Good grief there are some Trump fanboys here .
payoff to insurance companies.
Really ?
I thought Obamacare was a kick in the ribs blight to health insurance companies, that's why those companies who sponsor the Republican party are trying to dismantle OC.
I guess will see what positive results came from Trump and his administration after his 4th year term.
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Apostate Anonymous
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pulling information from right wing biased anti Democratic Web sites isn't telling the whole truth to Obama's presidency.
Ah, the old "fake news" claim that the MSM invented. If you can't counter the message, attack the messenger. Turns out that works both ways. The time of being able to dismiss information purely because you don't like where it came from is over - the MSM and the blatant bias have discredited it as a legitimate argument. The information is only published in certain outlets precisely because the Democrat controlled media won't report the truth.
Obama did some good for the country, unfortunately some of those polices created more repression toward businesses causing a stumbling block for certain businesses to grow and flourish
Please list his great achievements. He wad a great entertainer, but I don't think "was funny on Kimmel" is really 'enough' to go down in history as a great president.
Good grief there are some Trump fanboys here
Ah, then the next go-to "argument" ... "you are a fan boy". Again, that works both ways - why can't we critique Obama, isn't it because he has way more fanboys? And FYI I'm not a fanboy, I think he's a loathsome human being but that doesn't mean I can't notice when the media is biased and unfair in their treatment or that he can't do great things. The president of the US isn't a Mr Nice Guy competition after all. It seems that only someone like him could be elected to do the kind of things many people wanted.
Why is this place turning into the Breitbart comment section?
Yawn. Is that all you got?
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zophar
Well, I work for a living and because of a pre-existing health condition had a terrible time trying to start a business independent of Employer Group Insurance. My wife had health insurance, that I had to pay for, it wasn't free because of a provision of ObamaCare or more Properly the Affordable Care Act.
I don't think he was an effective president. I can't stand Hillary and I don't like Trump as a person. I don't know enough about foreign policy to know if his tweets to other world leaders have a good or bad effect, but it looks bad to me.
It gets back to a broken system. Republicans and Democrats won't work together for anything other than their own benefit and getting elected again.
I mainly agree with Simon when it comes to the whole BLM program. I knew some wonderful people among JW's who live in the ghettos and tried to work hard. Some of them had the cleanest homes you could want even in the poorest conditions which just shows that it comes back to whether you are willing to help yourself or not. I too think the welfare mentality went way up the last few years. I also believe that President Trump is a dangerous person.
Let the stoning commence. After all that is what we like to do to one another!
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Finkelstein
Like I said before if Trump's economic policies do create growth in business where there has been a severe drop in the last 10 years kudos to him, lets see what happens in the next couple of years.
He got elected upon the promise of creating more jobs, time will tell if he was successful or not.
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MeanMrMustard
I agree with Simon. There is a correlation between poverty and crime. But the left gets the causation entirely backwards. Poverty doesn’t cause crime. Crime causes poverty. Guns do not cause crime, criminals abuse gun ownership. It starts with the individuals, corrupted by the culture, ruined by government schools, kept out of the work force by minimum wage.
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Simon
I knew some wonderful people among JW's who live in the ghettos and tried to work hard. Some of them had the cleanest homes you could want even in the poorest conditions which just shows that it comes back to whether you are willing to help yourself or not
I remember going on the house-to-house ministry in a really deprived area in the UK. Amidst all the slummy housing you would find some where they obviously didn't have much money but they had painted their fence, swept the path, pulled the weeds - they took pride in their home even though it wasn't a mansion. There are people that are poor because they are lazy, there are people that are poor because they are unfortunate but work hard to make the best of their situation.
Interesting article about policing / crime and minorities. I think it speaks to what I was saying earlier - the focus is on the wrong people. We're forgetting the victims because the loud-mouths keep grabbing the mic.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/critics-proactive-policing-are-wrong-15625.html