by TR 14 Replies latest jw friends
:"The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary
activity. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed
in our 20th century. WT 01/01/89 p. 12"
The bound volumn reads, "in our generation" instead of "20th century".
Can anyone confirm what the original WT mag says?
TR
"cults suck"
Also, can anyone help me find a list of changed WT quotes?
thanks,
TR
"cults suck"
It is the original paper copy but changed in the volume.
JanG
Thanks Jan and Osarif. I greatly appreciate it.
This has got to be one of the most glaring screw ups the WTS has ever made! Nicely changed in the bound volumn for the average JW.
It all started out as a joke for my JW brother. For 7 years, since I left the WTS, I've kept silent about what I've found out about the WTS to prevent my losing contact with him and his family.
I sent him an email the other day jokingly wondering if he was going to stop preaching since the 20th century is over, included in the email was the WT quote from 1-1-89. He emailed me back, saying that he looked it up and it said "our generation". I replied by saying that the quote was changed because of the screw up. He then replied saying that the WTS never changes anything, and that they don't make predictions! Unbelievable! Just moments ago I sent the scanned copy of the 1-1-89 WT article. It was a terse reply from him, and now he has first hand knowledge that I'm an 'apostate', he may never speak to me again.
We enjoyed several years of association, even though it's been infrequent because he lives in another state. Now, I had to open my big yap and possibly destroy that. What the hell have I done?
TR
"cults suck"
TR
don't you just love this NET "THANG"
it provides one with info in a manner that the Boys in Writing and the Service Dept have no way of dealing with
for years the key to the wt has been the control and lack of information only on thier terms
now the net is an open market and they have no CONTROL which has been the key to thier success
life is goood
Great job Osarsif! Really like your Web site, too. When a writer or organization edits material in order to change the meaning, and does not indicate those changes in revised material, they are committing intellectual dishonesty. The Watchtower Society does this often in order to cover up false predictions. The Truth book (1968) is another example of the Tower's intellectual dishonesty.
"Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is 'a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence.' And he warned: 'I know enough of what is going on to assure you that, in fifteen years from today, this world is going to be too dangerous to live in.'" (p. 9)
The CD version reads as follows:
*** tr 9 1 Grand Blessings from God Near at Hand! ***
Also, as reported back in 1960, a former United States Secretary of State, Dean Acheson, declared that our time is “a period of unequaled instability, unequaled violence.” Based on what he knew was then going on in the world, it was his conclusion that soon “this world is going to be too dangerous to live in.”
We used The Truth book in the late 60s and early 70s to get as many converts as possible before 1975. The Witnesses used the quote from Acheson to show how the world couldn't last beyond 1975. Editions of this book after 1975 and the CDs removed the "in fifteen years from today" quote the JWs used that pointed to 1975.
It just makes me sick.
and everyone just blindly continues on.
My name is Slipnslideius Masterus: commander of the armies of the North, general of the Felix legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius...
"What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the
pneumatic tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know
in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened
to be necessary in any particular number of The Times
had been assembled and collated, that number would be
reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy
placed on the files in its stead. This process of continuous
alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books,
periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks,
cartoons, photographs -- to every kind of literature or
documentation which might conceivably hold any political or
ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by
minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every
prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary
evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any
expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the
moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a
palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as
was necessary. In no case would it have been possible, once the
deed was done, to prove that any falsification had taken place.
The largest section of the Records Department, far larger than
the one on which Winston worked, consisted simply of persons
whose duty it was to track down and collect all copies of
books, newspapers, and other documents which had been
superseded and were due for destruction. A number of The
Times which might, because of changes in political
alignment, or mistaken prophecies uttered by Big Brother, have
been rewritten a dozen times still stood on the files bearing
its original date, and no other copy existed to contradict it.
Books, also, were recalled and rewritten again and again, and
were invariably reissued without any admission that any
alteration had been made. Even the written instructions which
Winston received, and which he invariably got rid of as soon as
he had dealt with them, never stated or implied that an act of
forgery was to be committed: always the reference was to slips,
errors, misprints, or misquotations which it was necessary to
put right in the interests of accuracy.
"But actually, he thought as he re-adjusted the Ministry of
Plenty's figures, it was not even forgery. It was merely the
substitution of one piece of nonsense for another. Most of the
material that you were dealing with had no connexion with
anything in the real world, not even the kind of connexion that
is contained in a direct lie. Statistics were just as much a
fantasy in their original version as in their rectified
version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make
them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty's
forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at
145 million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two
millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked
the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the
usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case,
sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fiftyseven
millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been
produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been
produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter
astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while
perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. And so it
was with every class of recorded fact, great or small.
Everything faded away into a shadow-world in which, finally,
even the date of the year had become uncertain."
(George Orwell, 1984, Chapter 1. On-line at:
http://kulichki-lat.rambler.ru/moshkow/ORWELL/r1984ch1.txt )
--
Osarsif
{(George Orwell is a better prophet than the WT) Class}
