1914, how does the Watchtower calculate this ??? (page 2)

Mary

I still like my method.

Now Francois, how do you know that my method isn't New Light??

refiners fire

Gary. I thought the Old Jewish year was 12 x 30 days making 360 days to a year. Your offering seems much more plausible. Many thanks for the reminder.

The regular old Jewish year, since it was 12 lunar months, had a variable number of days, somewhat under 360. But so as not to fall behind the sun, they added an extra month every once in a while. So the average was still 365.

Hebrews didn't seem to be terribly concerned about mathematical precision, however (think about pi=3), so they may have commonly regarded a year to be 360 days.

Oxnard Hamster

Doesn't that story in Daniel about the King who turned into a wild beast or whatever also fit into the calculations somewhere?

I never could figure the thing out. They jump around to like 10 scriptures, do a bunch of math, count the number of hot dogs eaten, divide it by the number of times the Yankees won the world series, all to the power of the number of times Michael Jordan has retired and returned to the NBA.

The only part that makes sense is it's the same year WWI started.

Euphemism

The deal with the Babylonian king who went nuts is where they get the seven times, alluded to in the first post of the thread. :)

Oxnard Hamster

What I never understood is how they know for sure that the seven times applies to the restoration of the Heavenly Kingdom and not just the story about the king that went nuts.

Mary

There's no evidence at all that these "Seven Times" that they apply to their calculations had anything to do with anything other than Nebuchadnezzar going insane and ~~smoking~~ eating grass for seven years. After that, he was humbled and returned to normal. The Borg is simply reading something there, that isn't there at all.

garybuss

Good points Mary. The sorta prophets have nothing to loose by interpreting prophecy wrong. If they start a hype, their membership numbers increase along with corporate wealth. They know if they are wrong that all they have to do is spiritualize the prophecy and claim they were right after all . . . only on an invisible level. It has worked for over 100 years. They know the group members will accept anything they say because the members are sold on the concept that "they" speak for God. "They" know when they are wrong the members make excuses for them and stay in the work of unpaid religious literature distribution, no problem. If a few leave, no problem, there are 10 more to take her place.

The rewards are high for big corporation religion and the risks are nil.

run dont walk

thank you very much GaryBuss, wasn't expecting that good of an answer, but very much APPRECIATED.

I think Mary and Oxfordhamster make very valid points, does the calculation only concern when the King went nuts, or does it apply to every calculation in the bible.

I think it is safe to say that there is a very good possibility that the bible is incomplete. Do you all agree ??? The chances of finding the entire Bible on tablets and being able to translate every single scripture is highly unlikely. So if there is missing books or verses or information are these calculations by the Watchtower or ANYONE else are useless.

As I have said many times before, Jesus stated quite clearly "No one knows the day nor the hour." So any speculation on "creative days", "end of governments", "Armageddon". "New Order", "Christs reign beginning" are simply stupid.

religion survives on how scared they can make people, whether it be going to heaven/hell or paradise earth, the formula is the same.

this should be a great reference post for people.

And lets give GaryBuss some credit on finding all this information (on his own time), I really like how he ended it by saying :

"The rewards are high for big corporation religion and the risks are nil. "

thanks to everyone

run dont walk

Oxnard Hamster

The Borg is simply reading something there, that isn't there at all.

That's kinda the way they are with half their doctrines.

1914, how does the Watchtower calculate this ???

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