No, I'm not serious, just wanted to see if anyone would take the bait.
And yes, I'm bored. And no, I don't know anything about him.
Rosemarie
Gosh, gotta wonder what his first name is since he apparently feels it's so bad he has to use an initial.
L. Ron Hubbard really impresses me
by berylblue 18 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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drwtsn32
I'm glad you were joking! I thought we were about to have an interesting scientology debate in here.
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Hamas
Never heard of him !
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Gamaliel
beryl,
Sorry, but I just have to steal your thread to tell my experience with the Church of Scientology (CoS). L Ron Hubbard impresses me too. There is a CoS center a few blocks from me in NYC and I have visited many times for discussions, films, presentations, or to read in its library. I took the "L Ron Hubbard: Extraordinary Man" tour a couple times on my own, then went back again when a newbie gave me the tour, and I asked some questions, nothing controversial, just trying to get facts straight. Some senior members quickly took over, and they found someone who could give me the tour and take my questions.I told her it sounded interesting, seemed "too good to be true", asked why they had so much trouble getting public acceptance for such sensible, logical "psychology." She somehow finds me now every time I walk into the CoS center. She married high up into the Church and always tells me how it was worth so much to her that she sold her entire lucrative business and gave it all to the CoS.
Not to worry, this was just an exercise in undercover work. (I did the same thing with the Moonies for a psychology presentation, back in '82.) One of the funniest experiences I had was watching the paranoia of the upper echelon when I was taking notes from the text in the "Extraordinary Man" tour which is set up like a museum walk-through presentation. (There are several contradictions in the text of the tour, a lot of "all too obvious" hyperbole, and several statements which unintentionally raise suspicions. One quick example: A caption to a letter praising his Naval record: "Hubbard greatly impressed his underlings..." with his achievements and leadership in the Navy. Doesn't the wording make you wonder how bad his record must have been with his superiors? As it turns out, with minimal research effort, his record with his superiors was so atrocious that the CoS actually used faked "Naval" documents for many years in such presentations to try to "improve" this record --until they were caught.) Although the mostly young CoS staff seemed very pleased to see me taking notes, the president of the chapter (very striking, chisel-featured, blond man) came down from his office to watch out of the corner of his eye, and sent a couple different people up to me with "innocuous" questions like "Haven't we seen you here before?" and then, "By the way, if you are a reporter, we can give you a special version of the tour."
Anyway, here's where the paranoia got too funny. During a very busy period, when they didn't have enough staff to lead the tours, I actually gave the tour to a group of 6 college students who started out OK but who began showing their own skepticism openly. I don't know if there are microphones along the tour to hear comments, but even though I was giving it "straight" I was quickly joined by a guy who I think came downstairs from the president's office -- or at least someone who I had seen previously talking with him. He acted like just another guy interested in the tour, but he didn't interrupt. When it was over he gave himself away, introduced himself and said good job, but I had to pull away from him to get to my group before they got out to the street level or split up. I caught up to them, walked outside with them and told them that it was all bullsh*t, and to just look up Scientology on the Internet to get a better idea of what is really going on here. I got that priceless reaction of jaws dropping turning to laughter. It was the highlight of my entire year!
Gamaliel
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primitivegenius
hahahaahah thats hilarious Gamaliel hahahahahhah ROTFLMBO
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slipnslidemaster
Gamaliel, you're not Clear.
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ballistic
Gamaliel, you reminded me of the character from "catch me if you can". You tore that tour straight out of the story line!
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Gamaliel
slip,
Whaddya mean I'm not "Clear." Your "Cognition" is clogged.
(Old JW joke I just made up goes like this: So I was out in service telling the householder about "spirits". Householder says: I just don't see that. So I said: "Let me make myself clear." Householder said they could see right through that, I was nearly beside myself, but nothing ever materialized. )
ballistic,
Are you talking about the movie last year? Is it worth a rent?
Gamaliel
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integ
L.Ron Hubbard was a piece of shit, and his stinky legacy lives on in the distorted minds of his brain dead followers. Scientology makes the Borg look like a haven of sanity.
Integ.
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waiting
paraphrasing:
If you want to be famous, write a book. If you want to make money, start a religion.
- L. Ron Hubbard