Oh No! Could The WTS Have Been Right Re Aluminium!!!!!!!!!

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  • ISP
    ISP

    Aluminium toxicity in Edinburgh (1976)

    In the 1970s, there were outbreaks of encephalopathy (dementia) and bone disease (osteomalacia) in various dialysis units. This was often called "dialysis dementia". The key researchers into this were David Kerr in Newcastle and Alan Alfrey in the USA. Alfrey and colleagues associated the encephalopathy in dialysis patients with aluminium toxicity (Alfrey et al, 1976). Studies were done and a geographical variation of toxicity was found, and it was associated with aluminium in that water supply.

    Water that was peaty and brown in colour was not very attractive for drinking, so was treated with alum (aluminium hydroxide) and then filtered crudely. Aluminium in the water varied enormously from one area to another. In areas with very peaty water, the aluminium level can be very high. Aluminium also came from Alucaps, (aluminium hydroxide tablets). These were used to bind phosphate in patients who were hyperphosphataemic. Alucaps, reduced phosphate absorption from the diet. Originally it was thought that the aluminium in the Alucaps, was not absorbed into the body, but it was later found to be absorbed, increasing the plasma aluminium level. So there was a hunt for new substances to control phosphate, and calcium and magnesium were considered. Magnesium was not used since it causes diarrhoea. Calcium carbonate was chosen and used in Edinburgh in 1980s.

    " I remember walking into a ward round with an article from the New England Journal of Medicine about fracturing bone disease associated with aluminium, written by a research group in Colorado." (Dr C Swainson)

    [

    The dialysis encephalopathy syndrome. Possible aluminium intoxication" by Alan Alfrey and colleagues, published in the New England Journal of Medicine in 1976]

    "At that time one of the home HD dialysis patients was confused every time before coming into hospital, and she improved in hospital. She also had terrible fractures, but it was not due to hyperparathyroid disease. Dr Lambie thought it was an interesting article, and the patient's condition maybe related to what was described in the article". (Dr C Swainson)

    "There was a terrible problem of encephalopathy and bone disease in the patients dialysed in Newcastle. It was called "the Newcastle bone disease". Dialysis patients in Edinburgh also got terrible fractures. Not a week went by without at least one dialysis patient getting a fracture." (Dr R Winney)

    So the aluminium level from the water supply in her home (to the south of Edinburgh) was tested and was found to be very high. Water in the Edinburgh area was subsequently tested and the aluminium level was also found to be high. Water in Edinburgh was "medium hard", not as hard as the water in London, but harder than the water in the Western parts of Scotland.

    "There was a terrible problem of encephalopathy and bone disease in the patients dialysed in Newcastle. It was called "the Newcastle bone disease". Dialysis patients in Edinburgh also got terrible fractures. Not a week went by without at least one dialysis patient getting a fracture." (Dr R Winney)

  • outnfree
    outnfree

    OK, ISP, interesting, but would the amount leached from aluminum pans in places where alum and alucaps were NOT used to improve water color/clarity have done similar damage?

    outnfree

  • ISP
    ISP

    Aluminium Hydroxide seems to be the main worry and it is used for heartburn. Heres a snippit from Health Foodies 'Holland & Barratt'.

    Aluminium Hydroxide

    Also indexed as: Algedrate, Alu-Cap®, Aludrox®, Alugel®, Alu-Tab®, Amphojel®, Basaljel®, Di-Gel®, Metapharma Aluminum Hydroxide Gel®, Riopan®

    Combination drugs: Maalox®, Mylanta®, Tempo® Tablets

    Aluminium hydroxide acts as an antacid and is most commonly used in the treatment of heartburn, gastritis, and peptic ulcer. This drug is also sometimes used to reduce absorption of phosphorus for people with kidney failure.

    Aluminium hydroxide is found in a variety of antacids. People should read the ingredient label for over-the-counter (OTC) drugs carefully before purchase to know exactly what they contain.

    Interactions with Dietary Supplements –––

    Alginates
    A thick gel derived from algae has been used together with aluminium antacids to treat heartburn. Together, alginate gel and antacid were more effective at relieving symptoms 1 and improving healing. 2 Alginate is believed to work by physically blocking stomach acid from touching the esophagus. According to these studies, two tablets containing 200 mg alginic acid should be chewed before each meal and at bedtime.

    Calcium Aluminium hydroxide may increase urinary and stool loss of calcium. 3 Also, aluminium is a toxic mineral, and a limited amount of aluminium absorption from aluminium-containing antacids does occur. 4 As a result, most doctors do not recommend routine use of aluminium-containing antacids. 5 Other types of antacids containing calcium or magnesium instead of aluminium are available.

    Citrate
    Several studies have shown that combination of citrate, either as calcium citrate supplements or from orange and lemon juice, with aluminium-containing antacids increases aluminium levels in the body. 6 7 8 Calcium in forms other than calcium citrate has been shown to not increase aluminium absorption. 9 Drinking 7–10 ounces of orange juice provides sufficient citrate to be problematic. 10 11 Intake of 950 mg calcium citrate greatly elevates aluminium absorption. 12 People with renal failure may be at particular risk of kidney damage due to elevated aluminium levels if they combine aluminium hydroxide with citrate. 13

    Phosphorus
    Depletion of phosphorus may occur as a result of taking aluminium hydroxide. For those with kidney failure, reducing phosphorus absorption is the purpose of taking the drug, as excessive phosphorus levels can result from kidney failure. However, when people with normal kidney function take aluminium hydroxide for extended periods of time, it is possible to deplete phosphorus to unnaturally low levels.

    Summary of Interactions for Aluminium Hydroxide

    Depletion or interferenceCalcium

    Phosphorus

    Adverse interactionCitrate
    Side effect reduction/preventionNone known
    Supportive interactionAlginates
    Reduced drug absorption/bioavailabilityNone known

    For the convenience of the reader, the information in the summary is categorized as follows: “Depletion or interference” indicates the drug may deplete or interfere with the absorption or function of the supplement or herb. “Adverse interaction” indicates that the supplement or herb used together with the drug may result in undesirable effects. “Side effect reduction/prevention” indicates the supplement or herb may reduce the likelihood and/or severity of a potential side effect caused by the drug. “Supportive interaction” indicates the supplement or herb may support or aid the function of the drug. “Reduced drug absorption/bioavailability” indicates that the supplement or herb may decrease the absorption and/or activity of the drug in the body. An asterisk (*) next to an item in the summary indicates that the interaction is supported only by weak, fragmentary, and/or contradictory scientific evidence.

    References:

    1. McHardy G. A multicentric, randomized clinical trial of Gaviscon in reflux esophagitis. South Med J 1978;71(suppl 1):16–21.

    2. Graham DY, Lanza F, Dorsch ER. Symptomatic reflux esophagitis: A double-blind controlled comparison of antacids and alginate. Curr Ther Res 1977;22:653–8.

    3. Spencer H, Kramer L. Antacid-induced calcium loss. Arch Intern Med 1983;143:657–8 [editorial].

    4. Anonymous. Is aluminum harmless? Nutr Rev 1980;38:242–3 [review].

    5. Gaby AR. Aluminum: The ubiquitous poison. Nutr Healing 1997;4:3,4,11.

    6. Walker JA, Sherman RA, Cody RP. The effect of oral bases on enteral aluminum absorption. Arch Intern Med 1990;150:2037–9.

    7. Weberg R, Berstad A. Gastrointestinal absorption of aluminum from single doses of aluminum containing antacids in man. Eur J Clin Invest 1986;16:428–32.

    8. Fairweather-Tait S, Hickson K, McGaw B, Redi M. Orange juice enhances aluminum absorption from antacid preparation. Eur J Clin Nutr 1994;48:71–3.

    9. Nolan CR, Califano JR, Butzin CA. Influence of calcium acetate or calcium citrate on intestinal aluminum absorption. Kidney Int 1990;38:937–41.

    10. Anonymous. Preliminary findings suggest calcium citrate supplements may raise aluminum levels in blood, urine. Family Practice News 1992;22:74–5.

    11. Fairweather-Tait S, Hickson K, McGaw B, Redi M. Orange juice enhances aluminum absorption from antacid preparation. Eur J Clin Nutr 1994;48:71–3.

    12. Nolan CR, Califano JR, Butzin CA. Influence of calcium acetate or calcium citrate on intestinal aluminum absorption. Kidney Int 1990;38:937–41.

    13. Walker JA, Sherman RA, Cody RP. The effect of oral bases on enteral aluminum absorption. Arch Intern Med 1990;150:2037–9.

    Now are you at risk from aluminium pans? I don't think there are any reported cases. But it is conceivable IMO. More chance than the prophets being ressurrected or Armageddon coming. So thats pretty good for the WTS. Will it appear in the Awake?

    ISP

  • ISP
    ISP

    Hello outnfree,

    re Aluminium pans..........its gotta chance!

    Aluminium Pan (shiny new one) + heat + Acid ( vinegar or nasty wine) = Discoloured pan + Aluminium products that could be substitute Calcium etc. IMO most alumium pans disclour quickly anyway, they go from sparkling to a matt colour. I don't know what the compound is that is formed on the outside but I guess its aluminium oxide. I guess poisoning from pans could happen if ate a whole one.

    Anyway this WTS pitch is pretty much a strike IMO certainly in the general vicinity of the batter...not like all the others.

    ISP

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    The fact that aluminum is toxic in sufficient quantities has been known for quite some time.

    This is rather different from the quack notions advanced by C. J. Woodworth and his company of morons in the name of God, such as that aluminum cookware is highly toxic. The Watchtower abandoned these notions in the 1950s. If aluminum cookware is toxic enough that God would need to be concerned about "his people", it's odd that he "directed" them to issue warnings in the 1920s but cancelled them in the 1950s.

    AlanF

  • ISP
    ISP

    Yep Alan, but you don't see that the FDS was moved to warn Gods household ahead of time that Aluminium pans could indeed represent a threat to sanity. The faithful adhered to the warning and escaped from insanity...just like the faithful christian remnant in the first century escaped Gods judgement on the Jewish system in 70 AD when they fled to the mountains of Judea. Gods people in the '20s fled to the figurative aluminium pan free mountain and escaped bad diseases and stuff. Having escaped .........such warnings could be discontinued in the 50s.

    ISP

  • Rush
    Rush

    I don't know an awful lot about this subject, but can find two reviews on 'Medline' that look at exposure to aluminium in various forms (such as occupational and drinking water) done in 2002.

    one concluded that there was not enough information to link aluminium in any form with an increased risk of dementia. The other concluded that water levels above a certain threshold increased your risk of dementia but could not conclude on other sources.

    Sorry I can't be more precise at the moment. But I'm certainly not throwing out my pans yet.

  • ISP
    ISP
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    alt We have been using an aluminium 'jelly pan' for several years to make jam. I've heard that aluminium cooking pots are not recommended because the metal gets into the food. Is this the case?
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    alt It is thought that using aluminium pans for cooking acidic foods such as fruit, onions and tomatoes can play a part in the onset of dementia. Any link has not yet been conclusively proved but it may be prudent to avoid using aluminium pans and use another jelly pan for making your jams and chutneys. alt
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  • ISP
    ISP
    We have been using an aluminium 'jelly pan' for several years to make jam. I've heard that aluminium cooking pots are not recommended because the metal gets into the food. Is this the case?
    Ken Oxford
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    alt It is thought that using aluminium pans for cooking acidic foods such as fruit, onions and tomatoes can play a part in the onset of dementia. Any link has not yet been conclusively proved but it may be prudent to avoid using aluminium pans and use another jelly pan for making your jams and chutneys.
  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Hi ISP,

    : The faithful adhered to the warning and escaped from insanity

    I don't think so.

    AlanF

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