Did you know there are prophets among us?

by avengers 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • avengers
    avengers

    Well, think about it? When you are df'd or da'd then you're out.
    As for those who are not df'd or da'd my question is: Are you then still JW?
    I haven't been df'd and I did not da myself.
    Am I then still a JW? This got me thinking when I came across this.

    "Would That All Were Prophets! .. You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses" {AWAK Jun 8 1986 9}

    This would seem to imply that I'm a prophet and many of you here too. That is if you're stll counted as a dubb.
    If they df me or I da me then that has consequences. It will be harder for me to associate with
    relatives and family. I'm silently being shunned already and that would just make it harder.
    But what it comes down to then is the question: Am I being a hypocrit?
    I know what the WT is about and yet choose to be associated?
    I could use their own weapons like a sort of "Theocratic Warfare" though.
    I'm interested in YOUR opinions. How do you address this issue?

    Thanks for your indulgence.........Andy

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    Yes, I noticed that too.

    Perhaps it's like the old communist joke - 'Everybody's equal, but some are more equal than others' which become 'everybody's a prophet, but some (GB?) are more prophetic than others'

    On the other hand I think the clue is in how the word 'prophet' is used and defined. The paragraph defines a prophet simply as 'witnesses for God' so anyone claiming to be passing on God's words are prophets by that definition.

  • Guest 77
    Guest 77

    Excuse me, you misunderstood, they meant, profits $$$$$ for them.

    Guest 77

  • arancia
    arancia

    Oh,yes I knew that there were some of them thinking they were the prophet.I well remember one of mine very last International assembly,it was a very cold windy day that day in sydney .It was the international Assembly of J.W and for the elderly not a pleasent situation to be in either.That is not the point the point is not been a prophet would simply be different from the holy ones who had a very nice confortable little tea room ,with a lots of refreshment,the smell of coffee was delicious. So ,as you can understand we were not the the prophets.

  • Vivamus
    Vivamus

    Greven is _my_ prophet

    -

    And the world shall tremble in the wake of the Blue Bubblegum
    Dutch District Overbeer

  • greven
    greven

    Which doesn't mean I have a beard, wear sandals and have never seen a bar of soap before btw!

    Tremble and bow to the mighty Vivamus and her brethren!

    Greven

  • Mr. Kim
    Mr. Kim

    Some people are much more than what they appear to be. The sorting and separating have already started. Truth is read from the hearts of all that listen to GOD and not the thoughts and ideas of Mankind.

    Mr. Kim

    #1

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Here are somemore goodies for ya!

    Here are some related quotes you might enjoy.

    *** Awake! 1986 June 8 p.9 "Would That All Were Prophets!" ***
    You will be interested to learn that God has on earth a people, all of whom are prophets, or witnesses for God. In fact, they are known throughout the world as Jehovah's Witnesses.

    *** Watchtower 1964 June 15 pp.365-6 Jehovah, the God of Progressive Revelation ***
    THE KINGDOM'S ESTABLISHMENT
    22 As Jehovah revealed his truths by means of the first-century Christian congregation so he does today by means of the present-day Christian congregation. Through this agency he is having carried out prophesying on an intensified and unparalleled scale. All this activity is not an accident. Jehovah is the one behind all of it. The abundance of spiritual food and the amazing details of Jehovah's purposes that have been revealed to Jehovah's anointed witnesses are clear evidence that they are the ones mentioned by Jesus when he foretold a "faithful and discreet slave" class that would be used to dispense God's progressive revelations in these last days. [...]
    23 The holy spirit of Jehovah is working mightily today! How thankful we should be for the provision God has made of this slave class, the modern spiritual remnant, as they faithfully dispense the revealed truths of Jehovah! With these rich truths to light the way, Christians do not grope in this dark, jungle-like world as do the masses of people in Christendom and heathendom alike. To the contrary, Jehovah's faithful witnesses have been progressively brought to an understanding of Jehovah's purposes, which are clearer now than ever before in history. Their organization, being patterned after the first-century Christian congregation, is blessed by Jehovah. He has prospered their work of preaching "this good news of the kingdom" in 194 different lands to date. Each year they gather into the organization tens of thousands of new ministers, clearly a product of Jehovah's spirit operating through his invisible King-Son and his angelic representatives, then through his faithful slave class on earth today.-Matt. 24:14.

    *** Watchtower 1964 October 1 p.601 Pay Attention to Prophecy ***
    for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization, ... Jehovah's anointed witnesses on earth.

    *** Watchtower 1965 June 1 p.352 Questions from Readers ***
    New features of the work have required new methods, which has meant revisions and changes from time to time in organization instructions, but it is all a part of the advancement of Jehovah's theocratically controlled organization under the immediate direction of Jehovah God himself. Therefore, these revisions and changes are themselves fully theocratic, so they do not alter in any way the fully theocratic structure of the organization.

    *** Watchtower 1972 August 1 p.458 Loving Oversight of the Congregation of God ***
    THEOCRATIC APPOINTMENT IN THE CONGREGATION
    10 But who is at the head of this rapidly expanding congregation, you ask? Is it some brilliant, farsighted man, some human who is a master organizer? No, for the Christian congregation is operated theocratically, meaning that it recognizes the leadership only of Jehovah God as exercised through his Son and enthroned King, Jesus Christ. (Isa. 33:22; Heb. 12:2; Rev. 19:16) This is what makes the congregation theocratic in structure, adhering to God-rule. If an organization is to be fully theocratic, it must be directed and controlled altogether by God and by the forces he operates. It is vital, therefore, that each one recognize that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Christian congregation, as well as showing proper regard for those on earth who have been theocratically appointed to positions of oversight.-Phil. 2:9-11; 1 Cor. 11:3; Acts 14:23.

    *** Watchtower 1981 February 15 p.19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***
    OUR VIEW OF THE "SLAVE"
    We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah's Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the "remnant" and of the "other sheep," than anywhere else upon earth.

    *** Watchtower 1981 December 1 p.27 The Path of the Righteous Does Keep Getting Brighter ***
    Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his "faithful and discreet slave," made up of spirit-anointed ones ... Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do.

    *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth-But How? ***
    A third requirement is that we be associated with God's channel, his organization. ... Jehovah is using only one organization today to accomplish his will. To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.

    The Watchtower recognizes the truth as belonging to Jehovah, and not to any creature. The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men. No man’s opinion is expressed in The Watchtower. God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will.
    (Watchtower 1931 November 1 p. 327)

    Jehovah God is therefore the only Supreme Court of interpretation of His inspired word.... To such remnant of faithful servants of Jehovah God Christ Jesus has entrusted all “his goods”, or earthly interests of the Kingdom. This does not signify that the faithful remnant or society of Jehovah’s anointed witnesses are an earthly tribunal of interpretation, delegated to interpret the Scriptures and its prophecies. No; Christ Jesus the King has not entrusted that office to them. THE SUPREME COURT STILL INTERPRETS, thank God; and Christ Jesus, the Court’s official mouthpiece of interpretation, reserves to himself that office as head of Jehovah’s “faithful and wise servant” class. He merely uses the “servant” class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it.
    (Watchtower 1943 July 1 p. 202, 203)

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    .."all of whom are prophets,"..

    I suppose they mean that they all are prophets in that they are preaching a message of things that will be while out in the preaching work. If you are not an active preacher then I wouldnt constitute you of that "publicly preaching prophet" class

  • garybuss
    garybuss



    w68 5/1 p. 286-7 Questions from Readers
    * When Jesus Christ was a man on earth, did he wear a beard? - K.A., U.S.A.

    "Biblical evidence is the most reliable testimony to be found on this question, and a recent careful review of what it says indicates that Jesus did indeed have a beard."

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