More Shootings ... 3 Louisiana Police Killed ... 3 More Injured

by RubaDub 15 Replies latest social current

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  little_Socrates

  I can't imagine how impossible policing would be if you have people openly able to carry lethal weapons

  Open carry insures that everyone acts politely and civilly. IMO concealed carry is a much bigger public safety issue.

  I think I am safe in saying that many victims of these mass shootings wish the person(s) were just using their fists or blunt objects.

  Dead is dead. I don't understand this comment at all. As a matter of fact death by gun is probably quicker and less painful than by blunt object.
  

  Even though I am advocate for gun rights(though I personally am not an owner)... my comments where not meant to be anti-gun control per-say. What I was commenting on was the irrational fear we have of long black militaristic looking weapons. If you actually want to advocate for gun control in a rational intellectually honest way you have to deal with hand guns NOT rifles. Rifles make up a tiny portion of our gun problems. It seems that no one advocating for gun control will acknowledge this. The arguments against rifles are totally fear based and non rational.
  
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  Simon

  Open carry insures that everyone acts politely and civilly. IMO concealed carry is a much bigger public safety issue.

  Both are a bigger public safety issue than "no carry"

  Dead is dead. I don't understand this comment at all. As a matter of fact death by gun is probably quicker and less painful than by blunt object.

  But one happens a lot more and makes it easier to do. I can't remember the last time I saw a "man clubs 50 people to death in a nightclub" headline.
  
  
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  little_Socrates

  But one happens a lot more and makes it easier to do. I can't remember the last time I saw a "man clubs 50 people to death in a nightclub" headline.

  
  

  Yes one does happen a lot more... did you read the link I gave?

  FBI statistics in 2012 Show....

  625 deaths by rifle and shotgun combined.

  322 deaths by Rifle and 303 by shotgun

  
  

  1196 Deaths by blunt object

  678 of those related to "fists"

  
  

  You are twice as likely to be bludgeoned to death than being killed by a rifle or shotgun. You are just reacting to the media attention and the dramatic stories created by mass shootings. Yes fists and blunt objects are a far greater public health/safety concern than rifles, they just don't create nearly as many sensational news stories.
  

  
  
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  prologos

  When it comes to shooting police officers, it has a ring of warfare to it. Many of the civilians killed by the law, had already a criminal history, and their death was a disaster waiting to happen to them, these targeted cop killings, by trained killers (army , marines) raises the killings by criminals to a new level. laws or not.
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  RubaDub

  little_Socrates

  I hope I am not going against the TOS here but your logic (and I use that term tongue-in-cheek in your case) is either comical or blatantly stupid.

  More people die from heart disease than get killed by blunt objects.

  More people die from auto accidents than get killed by getting punched in the face.

  As Simon mentioned, there would not be 50 dead in a nightclub if the guy had a baseball bat. In Louisiana, the 6 police just shot (3 dead) would likely be unharmed unless the guy could throw a lethal baseball bat or hammer at each one from a hundred yards away (ok, ok, it happened in the Bible once with David and Goliath and a stone).

  Otherwise, your logic makes no f*#%ing sense. People's lives are involved here.

  Rub a Dub
  
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  little_Socrates

  More people die from heart disease than get killed by blunt objects.

  More people die from auto accidents than get killed by getting punched in the face.

  Yes and we as a society take action to lesson both of those things from happening because they are very common. Rifle deaths in comparison are very rare. Why do the very sensational deaths by rifle move you so much more that the countless more people kill by handguns? 80-90% of gun violence is done with hand guns. Do something about that first is all I am saying.