May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

by BoogerMan 19 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  dozy

  Fredrick Franz did notice the discrepancy, so in a footnote to the "Revelation"-book

  There was much debate as to how involved the (then) 95 year old Franz had in writing the book.

  Although pretty senile by then , it is possible that Franz did have some input - notably after he died , the Climax book was substantially revised (we all remember the long list of changes to the book before it was studied for a third time.) His superb expertise in numerous languages , such as biblical Greek , would doubtless have been helpful to the writing committee.
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  truth_b_known

  

  Overlapping Beasts (Colorized, 2022)
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  Gorb

  A now old, demented elder from my old congregation told me in 1995 that the anointed are the overlapping of the overlapping of the overlapping of the overlap.

  He was a very self made smart JW, knowing all the doctrine and making the members of the hall scared with his doom and manipulation.

  Maybe he smiles watching the evening news with all the Russia stuff.

  G.
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  TD

  Hardly an expert, but didn't the JW's teach the UN was the "scarlet beast" of Rev 17 (the one the harlot rides) and not the "wild beast" of Rev 11?
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  Abraham1

  This has nothing to do with “abomination that causes desolation” mentioned in Mathew 24:15 which JWs mistook as UN. Governments or their any representative body cannot become abomination because they are collectively called "servant of God." (Romans 13:1-6) This is because they reward the good people and punish the criminals (Proverbs 21:1) Thus does the will of God on earth.

  Religious leaders are called ‘brood of viper’ or serpent (Mathew 12:34; Luke 3:7) because they distort the true picture of God (Mathew 15:9; 23:13) and Law of Consequence (Mark 5:24-25), yet claim to be positioned in holy place. Original serpent suggested ‘God is an obstacle on your path to your ultimate progress which can be achieved only by rejecting His laws. They rejected laws such as Monogamy, and Vegetarian Diet (Genesis 1:29; 6:2; 10:9) which means they went after violence. Hence Jesus compared pre-flood world as being engrossed in “eating, drinking and marrying”—thus he deliberately left out any literally violent or wicked acts by men. (Mathew 24:37-39) For God even refusal to love is also “an act of violence and faithlessness.” (Malachi 2:16)

  Religion continues to sanctify animal killings which God considers as an ABOMINATION which would automatically make killing of a human for sacrificial purpose EVEN MORE ABOMINATION in the eyes of God. (Isaiah 66:3-4) Through the celebrated teaching of Ransom Sacrifice of Jesus, God is presented as an incapable driver who uninsightfully drove his vehicle (creation) into an unknown and difficult terrain and did not know how to reverse and to put the vehicle on track again. He needed the help of Jesus who thus first became the Saviour of GOD HIMSELF and later Saviour of mankind who put faith in such act of ABOMINATION. (Mathew 24:15)

  Hence wrong understanding + another wrong understanding would only make a big wrong!
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  smiddy3

  I could argue that what happened back then doesn`t apply to Jehovah`s Witness religion as it didn`t exist back then .

  It applied to "The International Bible Student`s Association" IBSA .that still exists to this day.

  Those that formed the JW religion was a breakaway mob that was formed in the mid 1930`s and can`t lay claim to what occurred prior to that date.

  IMHO.
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  BluesBrother

  Interesting question but looking at the JW Library it seems to relate the wild beast out the abyss , that killed the two witnesses, to the wild beast out of the sea in Rev. 13 . They say that the terms “the sea” and “the abyss” can both be drawn from the Greek word.

  The teaching is therefore that the political system jailed Rutherford and co , not the League or the UNO
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  Rattigan350

  " "scarlet beast" of Rev 17 (the one the harlot rides) and not the "wild beast" of Rev 11?"

  The Scarlet beast is the UN as it is the 8th king but not a king that is made up of the others.. This is Rev 17. The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss,l and it is to go off into destruction... And the wild beast that was but is not,o it is also an eighth king, but it springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.

  The Wild beast of Rev 11 is the kingdoms of the past and present.
  
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  Vidqun

  Rev. 17:8 Beast about to ascend out of the abyss ["is about to come up from the abyss" NET]

  Rev. 11:7 Beast that ascends out of the abyss ["the beast that comes up from the abyss" NET]

  Conclusion: 1) Same beast. 2) Rev. 11 & 17 not in chronological order. 3) Fake (Watchtower) prophecy.
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  LongGone

  The League of Nations was not founded until 1920.

  The Wild Beast was not identified as the League of Nations until N.H. Knorr "prophesied" the United Nations arising, pursuant to widespread news reports that this was in the works and was soon going to happen.