So it was claimed that the resolution issued by the meeting at Jerusalem was issued by the Holy Spirit (Acts 15), yet................

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  • deegee
    deegee

    According to Acts 15, the meeting at Jerusalem boldly declared that God's Holy Spirit issued a formal resolution counselling Christians to "abstain from meats offered to idols and from blood, and from things strangled, and from formication", YET in 1 Corinthians chapters 8 &10 Paul set the Holy Spirit-issued resolution of the Jerusalem meeting regarding the eating of meat sacrificed to idols aside:

    "Concerning the eating of food offered to idols … some, because of their former association with the idol, eat food as something sacrificed to an idol, and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. But food will not bring us nearer to God; we are no worse off if we do not eat, nor better off if we eat. All things are lawful, but not all things are advantageous. All things are lawful, but not all things build up. … Eat whatever is sold in a meat market, making no inquiry because of your conscience. … If an unbeliever invites you and you want to go, eat whatever is set before you, making no inquiry on account of your conscience" (1 Corinthians 8:4, 7-8; 1 Corinthians 10:23, 25, 27 NWT, 2013).

    How could Paul have done this when the Holy Spirit issued this necessary resolution which must be adhered to (as is also insisted on by the WT)?

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    How could Paul have done this when the Holy Spirit issued this necessary resolution which must be adhered to (as is also insisted on by the WT)?

    Because the 3 dietary restrictions were temporary instructions designed to enhance Jewish/Gentile relations in the fledgling church.

  • berrygerry
    berrygerry

    Also missing are these key words:

    For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things:

  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Don't forget this very important bit for text in Acts 15:

    20 but that we write unto them that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
    21 For Moses from olden times hath in every city those who preach him, he being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day.
  • Island Man
    Island Man

    Also, what Paul wrote in Corinthians shows that the God of the Bible would not hold it against people if they innocently partook of customs that once had pagan religious significance, for that is comparable to innocently partaking of meat that was once part of an idolatrous ceremony.

    The motives of the individual is key. And this is the point JWs are missing when they condemn others for innocently celebrating birthdays, Christmas, Mother's Day, etc. People engage in these activities innocently without any pagan religious devotions in mind - just like the christian who innocently partakes of meat that was once used in an idol sacrifice does not have any idol-sacrifice religious motives in mind.

    The JWs are blind pharisees who worship, not the god that Paul preached about, but a petty god of stigma who stigmatizes innocent, modern-day customs engaged in innocently, due to some long past association with pagan religious rites. The JW god is not Paul's God. The JWs god is a god who will kill christians for innocently eating meat that was once part of the ceremony at a pagan temple. The JW god would require that the christians inquire to make sure that the meat was not used in idol sacrifce, while Paul's God doesn't require the christian to ask but to innocently partake in good conscience.

  • deegee
    deegee

    How could Paul have set aside a resolution issued by the Holy Spirit (Acts 15 versus 1 Corinthians 8 & 10)? Wouldn't Paul be going against God?

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Ist Corinthians was written before this issue was raised in Jerusalem, as recorded in Acts. As was it seems, the Letter to the Galatians, which touches on the matter.

    The nub of the argument dealt with in Acts was: Is it necessary for Gentile Christians to live by the Jewish Law to attain salvation ?

    The answer Holy Spirit gave was no. So there is no conflict with what Paul said, years earlier.

    As Van 7 said above, the advice to Gentile Christians to be sensitive to their Jewish brothers feelings on diet etc was to unite the church. I could add more, but I hope this is helpful.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    Who's to say the book of acts was written before the book of Corinthians. It's like dealing with the proclamations made at the Nicea in 325 called the nicean creed. Why did the bishops even have to deal with the issues about christs divinity , for the book of John told them or maybe it's because the book of John hadn't been written yet.

  • Hernandez
    Hernandez

    There is actually a simple solution that, of course, gets overlooked by the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Acknowledging that there are still debates and other workable (albeit complicated) solutions to this problem, the simplest answer is often the most overlooked:

    Acts 15 is an edict designed to preserve Jewish practice among Judeo-Christians while acknowledging that Gentiles are not to be bound by the same in Christ. Jehovah’s Witnesses view Acts 15 as a historical change for all Christians, a point in time when Christianity began to pull away from Jewish practice. This is not the case. Acts 15 merely reiterates part of the Jewish Tradition, namely that Gentiles are under the Sheva Mitsvot Bne Noah or the Noahide Laws, and that their introduction into the Body of Christ (the foundations of which are Jewish) does not change this. As such, Acts 15 neither introduces anything new (as Jews have always viewed Gentiles bound by Noahide Laws), and as Acts 21.15-26 proves, neither does it introduce a change for Jewish Christians.

    1 Corinthians is telling Gentile Christians how to apply (and perhaps even introducing them to) Sheva Mitsvot Bne Noah. Most ancient cultures, including that of the Jews, butchered animals for daily eating as part of a religious ritual. Animals were slaughtered and their blood (or spirit) was offered back to the deity worshipped by the butcher (or priest), and eating the remaining meat was seen as a type of “communion” with the deity. Since the only practical way to get meat to eat was through the market run almost exclusively by pagans who butchered their meat this way, Paul taught the Gentile Christians that since they were not actually taking part in the sacrificial act and worship, their eating of the meat was not partaking in communion to idol gods.

    Especially if we were Jehovah’s Witnesses, we were likely taught (or took it for granted) that the Jews sacrificed animals merely to have sins forgiven and that God introduced this “system of atonement” for their sins in the Tabernacle/Temple arrangement. But Jehovah’s Witnesses could not be more wrong.

    Practically all the ancient cultures believed that their deities allowed them to eat the flesh of animals as long as they thanked their gods for the life of the beast by ceremonially pouring out its blood. The ancients viewed blood as sacred because they believed that the “life force” or the “soul” of a creature was actually in its blood and had thus had the power that made up life (which they also believed about seminal fluid and the blood of menstruation flow). These bodily fluids were thus treated and offered to deities in very special ways.

    This ancient, almost universal belief or understanding is what is being spoken of here in both Acts and 1 Corinthians. If you offer the blood of an animal (or any other part of it) in a butcher/priest system in which the butcher makes the offering to an idol, are you then (by eating the meat )having religious communion with the false god? Paul answers “no.”

    In the Greco-Roman world, meat sellers butchered their animals in the marketplace, offering the blood (and sometimes things like the fat and entrails) to whatever deity they worshipped. Not to do so was considered blasphemous in the heathen world, a dishonor to the gods and to the society you sold your meat to. There was no other meat to buy in the Gentile world (unless you went to Jerusalem and ate kosher meat properly slaughtered by regulation of the Mosaic Law at the Temple--or did it yourself). The Gentile world of the time was just as cosmopolitan as the Western world of today, and most people did not raise their own livestock for meat. You want meat? The marketplace was the only way to get it. And who butchered the meat? Jewish priests? Nope, these were heathen or pagan butchers.

    And that is all this is. Again, Acts 15 introduces nothing new, merely preserving Jewish custom while upholding the teaching that Gentiles are only bound to observe the Noahide Laws (which included refraining from idolatry and the active participation in communion to idol gods), and 1 Corinthians is Paul explaining to Gentile Christians how to apply these laws in their particular circumstances.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    The question is not which was written first, but what happened first...the Jerusalem Council or the writing of I. Cor. This from "Dating The New Testament"

    "The letter to the Galatians does not mention the Jerusalem Council, and the omission is telling. Paul is extremely emotional in Galatians in his opposition to the "Judaizers", Jewish Christians who followed him to Galatia and had been teaching the gentile believers there that they needed to be circumcised and follow the law of Moses. Paul was adamantly opposed to that idea, and it was this controversy that led to the Jerusalem Council of 50 A.D., described in Acts 15. The council's verdict went essentially in Paul's favor, indicating that gentiles did not need to be circumcised or follow the law of Moses, but requiring them to abstain from food offered to idols, from eating meat with blood, and from sexual immorality (Acts 15:29), restrictions necessary to allow fellowship between Jewish and gentile Christians.

    First and Second Corinthians

    There is scholarly consensus that the letters of 1 and 2 Corinthians were written by Paul during his third missionary journey... There is sufficient biographical information in both the letters to the Corinthians and in the book of Acts to allow these letters to be dated very accurately.

    1 Cor 5:7-8 seems to say that Passover season is imminent. The time frame for both letters then is quite narrow, with 1 Corinthians being written just before Passover in 55 A.D. and 2 Corinthians being written in 56 A.D.



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