Jehovah Banned in Singapore (page 2)

EverApostate

Welcome Smiddy

Cold Steel. Thanks for your long explanation but anything from the Bible doesn't impress me now, as I had found it to be a collection of myths and superstitions, a long time ago

redvip2000

Draconian laws, such as chewing gum is banned in their country.

Good, at least they probably keep their streets clean. Sounds like a great place to live, when compared to dirty big cities in other countries. I wish we have more emphasis on the quality of life laws here.

EverApostate

I am reviving my old thread with some latest comments

As far as I know, jehovahs Witnesses are totally banned for the past 50 years in Norht Korea, Singapore, Saudi Arabia…. to name a few.

While being a JW, we were constantly brainwashed that preaching work should be done at the most urgency, because the time left is too short. Also we were told that we are blood guilty if we don’t do the preaching work. And the worship of Jehovah and Field service are the most important aspects of our life.

Here are some obvious questions I have now:

The bible says that nations are like a drop of water for Jah. Means he can handle anything on earth, just like that and Jehovah is a Jealous god and he would do anything to sustain his fame.

If that is the case why is his most important work banned in so many countries. Why doesn’t he do anything about it for more than half a century ? Isnt that a shame on Jah .

Its like “The president is the most powerful person in the United States but he is banned entering into Texas, New Jersey and Minnesota states. And no one should talk about him either, in these states”

Isnt that a mockery ?

RubaDub

Just don't do anything wrong there. They do that public caning thing where you bend over and some martial arts guy takes a large bamboo thing and beats you butt until it bleeds, and then beats it some more, depending on how many strokes the judge charged you to get.

Just a bit scary but I would still like to see the country.

Rub a Dub

Pete Zahut

They do that public caning thing where you bend over and some martial arts guy takes a large bamboo thing and beats you butt until it bleeds, and then beats it some more, depending on how many strokes the judge charged you to get.Just a bit scary but I would still like to see the country.

We could do with more people in our society who are scared of the consequences their actions bring. What we are doing right now obviously isn't working and it costs society a lot of money in terns of housing criminals and undoing the damage they do.

In terms of the ban on JW's in Singapore...it sounds like Jehovah needs to make with the frogs, locusts and bloody rivers like he did in Egypt when Pharaoh wouldn't let his people go.

RubaDub

it sounds like Jehovah needs to make with the frogs, locusts and bloody rivers like he did in Egypt when Pharaoh wouldn't let his people go.

Pete Zahut ...

Your comment reminds me of one of the cartoons I read that often has a priest talking to God for direction:

https://www.redmeat.com/max-cannon/golden-annointment-of-sheer-disappointment/Content?oid=3011355

Rub a Dub

fulltimestudent

My friend and i were about to book airplane seats for a visit to SG, (he's Singaporean and hasn't been there for about 14 years) when this new coronavirus problem came, so we decided not to go,

I agree, it is a clean and very safe city. Once on a business trip I couldn't sleep and went for a walk at 2.00 am - a few people around but I felt completely safe. Singapore is also very very hot and in monsoon weather its steamy. It can rain buckets without notice.

For RubaDub - If sentenced by a court to be caned, you dont bend over and get your bum caned. They tie you to a large X frame and you're caned on your back. Its extremely painful and you wont forget it. Critics argue that it's a form of torture and some say it can damage your kidneys. At the very least you wont sleep on your back for a month or more. (that punishment btw, is a carry over from the British occupation of Malaya).

The government is authoritarian and has made sure it has never lost an election. It is also socialist and owns a large, proftable investment company (Temasek- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temasek_Holdings) which I've heard distributes some of its profits to all Singaporeans. Does that sound\ "communist" - However, when he became Prime MInister, he jailed all local communists.

As the first prime minister Lee Kuan Yew ( an ethnic Hakka Chinese family) may have been parachuted in by the Brits to help in quelling the Malaysian Communist Insurgency. At University LKY studied economics and law which may have helped in his government role, An Australian teacher, who taught in SG for some years claimed (to me) that he met LKY as a member of a teachers delegation wanting a pay-rise, and that he had never met anyone as tough and nasty. There are claims that SG had a secret police oraganisation who specialised in eavesdropping conversations on buses and in cafes and arresting anyone who spoke against the government. I was once shown a building where (it was claimed) the secret police would question you. They had (more rumour) an interesting method of extracting information. There was supposed to be a cellar in the building where they took arrested dissidents, and (nothing as unsophisticated as a beating) they'd strip you and hose you down and lock you in a freezer. As I've indicated, that may or may not be true.

LKY was criticised for curtailing civil liberties (media control and limits on public protests) and bringing libel suits against political opponents. He argued that such disciplinary measures were necessary for political stability which, together with the rule of law, were essential for economic progress, once saying: "Anybody who decides to take me on needs to put on knuckle-dusters. If you think you can hurt me more than I can hurt you, try. There is no other way you can govern a Chinese society" (Wikipedia biog)

Tyrant or not, he made Singapore successful. And (as the Wikipedia Bio notes "... he forged a system of meritocratic, highly effective and non-corrupt government and civil service. Many of his policies are now taught at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy. Lee eschewed populist policies in favour of long-term social and economic planning. He championed meritocracy."

Interestingly, the former head of the Chinese Department at the university I attended some years back, once worked in the Australian Diplomatic Service and was in China in the late 1990's. He got to know some members of the then government quite well. In conversation with one high ranking Minister one day, he asked, "What will China look like when you're finished your transformation of China?" Without hesitation, the Minister replied, "Singapore."

LKY certainly got on well with the Chinese and made quite large investments in China. Singaporean companies have built quite large suburbs in some Chinese cites. See: https://www.scmp.com/business/global-economy/article/1877266/singapores-quota-investment-china-doubled-100-billion-yuan

and China is a large investor in Singapore: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/hub/business-china-special/spore-is-chinas-largest-investor

LV101

Pretty sure we chewed gum when in Singapore and I only remember one can't dispose of it (or not throw away the gum wrappers improperly) on the street. Maybe there's stricter rules now. I was nervous I'd accidentally drop a paper on the ground. My husband still chews gum when over there - maybe he better find out! Only so many Cathay Pacific mints one can chew.

smiddy3

Jehovah`s Witnesses say they have preached in the entire earth which is a blatant lie.As you say they are banned in Singapore ,North Korea ,Saudi Arabia ,and are severely restricted if not banned outright in many other Muslim Countries and certainly cannot do any D2D preaching.I dont believe they have the freedom to go D2D in mainland China either which has a huge population ,nor Pakistan or Bangladesh .

These countries must amount to about a third of the earths population at least ,so its a lie to say they have covered the earth with their witnessing.

EverApostate

Jehovah`s Witnesses say they have preached in the entire earth which is a blatant lie.As you say they are banned in Singapore ,North Korea ,Saudi Arabia ,and are severely restricted if not banned outright in many other Muslim Countries and certainly cannot do any D2D preaching.I dont believe they have the freedom to go D2D in mainland China either which has a huge population ,nor Pakistan or Bangladesh

Exactly. Thats my point. An Almighty god cannot lift the ban for many decades, for his most important preaching work.

Isnt that Ridiculous assuming Jehovah is the almighty god and he has a great salvation plan through Watchtower

Jehovah Banned in Singapore

Share this