The con is completed - comments from the US branch's LDC chief

by sir82 73 Replies latest jw friends

  • sir82
    sir82

    Recently attended a special assembly day.

    Guest speaker was Thomas Chicky, a member of the US branch committee and the head of the US LDC (which has replaced the RBCs).

    The last talk of the day is scheduled for an hour. It was the usual boring mumbo-jumbo. He appeared to have blasted through his hour-long outline in just about 45 minutes, so he "treated" us to informal comments on recent developments.

    He commented on the new WT complex in Fishkill NY.

    Then he dropped the bomb (well, to anyone with ears and at least 2 functioning synapses).

    The following is not a word for quote, but presents the gist of his comments:

    "We're not going to be building a thousand Kingdom Halls in the US. We don't need hundreds of new ones. We have about 6,200 Kingdom Halls in the US branch territory. We're going to work with what we have. Some of these buildings are 30 or 40 years old, so we'll be doing some renovation. Oh, we'll occasionally build a new Kingdom Hall, but we don't need very many of those."

    [Cue sound of phonograph needle scratching across the record]

    Wait a minute!

    Less than 3 years ago, there was introduced the new arrangement for financing Kingdom Hall construction.

    The WT sent out teams to present a dog & pony slide show to elders, all across the USA, explaining how desperately new Kingdom Halls were needed. There were maps, pinpoints, hotspots, highlighting the dozens of areas in the USA where hundreds of new Kingdom Halls were desperately needed.

    This presentation was used to justify the new arrangement where KH loans were "forgiven", replaced by perpetual monthly contributions equal to or exceeding the loan's monthly payments. Plus similar amounts demanded from all other congregations not even paying off a loan.

    There are about 14,000 congregations in the USA. If we make a conservative estimate that each one contributes $500 per month to this new arrangement (most congregations send in more, I'm quite sure) that would be $7 million per month, $84 million per year in funds dedicated to KH construction. Since the program was implemented, that would be nearly a quarter of a billion (with a "B") collected.

    That's just the United States. And that ignores the 10's or 100's of millions additionally collected when the program was introduced, and congregations were "strongly encouraged" to drain their savings accounts and send the excess of a few thousand to Bethel to help fund this program.

    So it's not hard to imagine that many 100's of millions, maybe, worldwide, over a billion dollars collected in 3 years.

    And now, we get the LDC chief saying" oh, we're not going to be building many Kingdom Halls. We're going to work with what we already have"?

    $Hundreds of millions collected for the putative reason of a "desperate need for new Kingdom Halls". And now "oh, we won't be building much after all."

    Un-frigging-believable.

    And no one, out of the 2000+ in attendance, even seemed to notice.

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    so--14,000 congregations share 6,200 kingdumb halls.---and they dont plan to build 100's of new ones....

  • steve2
    steve2

    So this is no longer an organization planning for expansion in numbers - even presumably in foreign language congregations in the US which in the recent past "enjoyed" huge growth.

  • ToesUp
    ToesUp

    Yep...the ole bait and switch. Watchtower is very good at it. Years of practice. The majority will just bobble their heads up and down in agreement. Sad! The thing that satisfies us is NONE of our money is going towards any WT crap. We are enjoying a vacation this week.

    LURKERS....VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!

  • Darkknight757
    Darkknight757

    This is horrible but expected. I personally know of people at my old hall who took out $10,000 + loans for our build just a few months before this new arrangement. All their money now gone.

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    "Bait and switch"............the unwritten creed of 'Jehovah's Organization' since the days of it's founder, Charles Taze Russell, right up to the present time.

  • Crazyguy
    Crazyguy

    I just had to brothers approach me at a gas station and one pulled out a mini track and invited me to their hall. This track was micro small , fit in the palm of my hand small. That's the future of thier congregations, micro contradictions.

  • blondie
    blondie

    So besides existing Wallkill and Patterson and soon to be completed Warwick, there is a Fishkill facility too?

  • darkspilver
    darkspilver

    Hey blondie!

    So besides existing Wallkill and Patterson and soon to be completed Warwick, there is a Fishkill facility too?

    Gotta keep up

    http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/money/economy/2014/12/22/jehovahs-witnesses-buy-fishkill-rivercrest-apartments/20788311/

    AFAIK they're being used as 'retirement apartments' for bethelites.....

  • pale.emperor
    pale.emperor

    Ok, so they said one thing and did another. There's a word for that, it's called lying.

    Or maybe they didnt lie. I mean they couldn't possibly have anticipated the future because they're not inspired or infallible.

    So once again their incompetence is thrust to the foreground. Do they issue an apology? Give the money back? Use the money to build much needed KH in Africa or Asia?

    Naaaaa.... they just keep it.

    AND THATS TAX FREE MONEY MIND YOU!!

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