OP very informative!!!!
Ask current Jehovah's Witnesses if they KNOW what happened in 1954 (SHOCKING)
by Terry 24 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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Terry
Yes, most of us at one time or another have wondered out loud what each
ERA (under a particular President) what say to the next era as teachings morphed, dissolved, reappeared in various exotic interpretations : each TRUTH.
It's mere vanity to think Truth evolves or grows brighter.
Who asks the simple question: BRIGHTER? BRIGHTER THAN WHAT?
If the last "Truth" was dark: who transmitted it from heaven? -
Finkelstein
Well written Terry
I think the most relevant explanation to the Rutherford qestion was this....
Clearly and forcefully J.F.Rutherford had taken a small group of Adventist bible students enamoured of Pastor Russell's chronology and pyramidology and compacted them into a mind-control cult obsessed with proper behavior and adherence to rules, regulations and quirky interpretations from a central authority.
Rutherford wanted complete control over people minds, thoughts and behavior and I think from him the foundation of a highly controlling religoius cult was formulated.
Yes follow me for I am the anointed one, I am the FDSL, god channels his spirit directly to me, through me one achieves righteousness in the eyes of god.
What Rutherford created was a religoius publishing house that used alluring tactics of fear, exploiting people's ignorance of secular knowledge and about what the bible really says, all endeavored to exploit people for labor and money.
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road to nowhere
Ask them what happened last summer. Or 1995, 1975, 2014. Last week. What did you learn at meeting whilst driving home
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caves
Thanks Terry. That was really informative and beyond messed up.
So I might could possibly give Russell a very small benefit of the doubt. But probably not. He seems very misguided, greedy and power hungry.
Rutherford on the other hand, seems beyond greedy, beyond ego, NOT misguided but aimed to misguide intentionally. Power hungry seems lite to me in his case. I see him now as a complete sociopath/psychopath, with a fragile ego covered up by his lies. If those old walls could talk. He sounds like he could have easily been a serial killer and just about had everyone scared out of their mind. I imagine he was a very paranoid man. Of being exposed for what he was, and I imagine anyone that he even thought was questioning him he offed one way or another and destroyed their reputation. And this is what I thought was truth. That is so disgusting.
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smiddy3
Did you know that from 1879 until 1954 ...
... the writings of C.T.Russell, J.F.Rutherford, Nathan Knorr, and the Watchtower's own charter...
... agreed ...
that Jesus Christ was to be WORSHIPED?And isn`t that what Philippians says in Capt.2 : 8-11 ? and all of the scriptures in the New Testament ?
Not one scripture in the N.T. charges Christians to be witnesses of Jehovah.not one.
However their are over twenty scriptures that state that Christians are to be witnesses of Jesus Christ.
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Acer21
This: "It's mere vanity to think Truth evolves or grows brighter."
Lucifer means Light Bearer.
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Terry
Telling an active JW the truth about their 'Truth' is like telling a guy
"You're Mom is a whore."
You'll get a smack in the face.
It's a violation to them - embarrassing, and shameful.
So ..."Watchtower is a cult" gets you a smack.
Automatic shutdown of the mind comes with bad news.
What's the first word out when a disaster strikes?
"NO! You're kidding, aren't you?"
JW's "know" intellectually that mere information changes regularly about the "true" teachings.
The Governing Body is made to seem like a team of forensic scientists with test tubes
in a laboratory examining fragments scripture through a microscope, detecting
tiny fluctuations of understanding.
But we know better.
These men, over the last hundred years, have BIG EGO problems.
By changing doctrines they impose THEIR POWER.
Everybody gets to take turns at the top.
So, the old roulette wheel keeps spinning.
Just think about the change of Jesus Christ into Christ Jesus.
At first - it sounds so weird. (And it is). But, just like hearing the words "Jehovah God" over and over ... your ears grow accustomed to it.
There was a narrow window of time in the Organization when a phrase suddenly appeared: Jehovah's CHRISTIAN Witnesses. Did you know that?
Self-consciousness about kicking JC's butt out the back door, no doubt. Or, a response to external pounding.
This will get much crazier as years go by.
Remember this and don't forget it: IN THE LONG RUN, the people who leave don't matter because the people who stay become twice as convinced.
Loyalty to leaders is an old, old story.
If we Ex-JW's had an external community for insiders to run to for refuge - it might be a different story. BUT WE DON'T.
Efforts to create one have been disastrous in the past.
We have become individuals who think for ourselves. We can't ever agree
to follow anybody's ideas again. -
EverApostate
Did you know that from 1879 until 1954 ... the writings of C.T.Russell, J.F.Rutherford, Nathan Knorr, and the Watchtower's own charter...... agreed ...that Jesus Christ was to be WORSHIPED
The WT claims that Jehovah chose their Org as the only channel of communication for people on earth
The Bible says that Jah is a Jealous God and he would not give the worship he deserves to others.
So, this supposedly Jahs Organization guided its members to worship Jesus for almost 75 years. Seems Jah wasnt Jealous for those 75 years!!
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RolRod
Russell not only worshipped Jesus, he admitted that he prayed to him too.
QUESTION (1912)--3--Are you addressing your prayers only to the Father in the name of the Son?
ANSWER--Usually I follow that form of addressing the heavenly Father--only in the name of the Lord Jesus; but I have found myself in prayer addressing the Lord Jesus himself, for I find nothing in the Scriptures to contradict that, for they say to honor the Son even as we honor the Father. Nearly all the Scriptures follow that course of addressing the Father and I think of only one that is different "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
What Pastor Russell Said, p 541