22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

by fulltimestudent 31 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  fulltimestudent

  The full story, as told in the UK Guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.

  But note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years. And from the christian/JW perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

  Yet jws and many other others including muslims, jews, and sundry christians believe that their fanciful religious fantasy is true in the face of factual evidence to the contrary
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  scratchme1010

  Yet jws and many other others including muslims, jews, and sundry christians believe that their fanciful religious fantasy is true in the face of factual evidence to the contrary
  

  There are plenty of indicators of those ages existing. Something I find interesting is that the Bible itself doesn't establish any timelines in terms of the stages in which things on Earth came to be. It is based on interpretations of writings that are considered sacred.

  As per Jesus of Nazareth, he did exist. That he is what the Bible and religion claims he is, that's a different story.
  
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  snowbird

  I have uncovered information that The Beginning was 28,337 years ago.

  Sylvia
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  Perry

  What information is that Snowbird?
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  snowbird

  Information from extra-Biblical sources.

  I'm making up a chart that I hope to get published.

  One source is that Eve lived 54 years after the death of Adam - a total of 984 years!

  Sylvia
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  Perry

  The Greenland Society of Atlanta has recently attempted to excavate a 10-foot diameter shaft in the Greenland ice pack to remove two B-17 Flying Fortresses and six P-38 Lightning fighters trapped under an estimated 250 feet of ice for almost 50 years (Bloomberg, 1989). Aside from the fascination with salvaging several vintage aircraft for parts and movie rights, the fact that these aircraft were buried so deeply in such a short time focuses attention on the time scales used to estimate the chronologies of ice.

  the average annual thickness of ice at Camp Century located near the northern tip of Greenland is believed to vary from about fourteen inches near the surface to less than two inches near the bottom (Hammer, et al., 1978). If, for simplicity, we assume the average annual thickness to be the mean between the annual thickness at the top and at the bottom (about eight inches), this still gives an age of less than 6000 years for the 4000-foot-thick ice sheet to form under uniformitarian conditions.

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  Would like to see that Snowbird
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  snowbird

  It's been 5 years in the making, but, what an eye opener!

  Sylvia
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  unsure

  I'm not religious but the OP and the link doesn't wash anything away.

  Many religious people don't believe every passage, timeframe, date in the Bible is literal.
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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry, as usual, is getting his knowledge from creationist websites. If Perry were to learn about ice core dating he would understand that dating takes place in stable ice fields and not on active glaciers, such as the active glacier covering the part of Greenland that these planes are buried in. He might also come to understand that ice core dates are verified by comparison with other dating methods. He might also come to understand that compaction takes place, therefore suggesting an "average" layer and using that to come to a numerical figure is nonsense. He might also come to understand that counting "layers" is not how ice core age is worked out.

  He might come to learn these things but he won't by repeating creationist propaganda.
  
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  Perry

  

  Bob Cardin, of Middleboro, Kentucky, was one of the men who dug the planes out. When asked, “Bob, when you dug that airplane out, how many layers of ice were there above the airplane?”, He said, “Oh, there were many hundreds of layers of ice above the airplane.”

  The facts are that in only 48 years, these planes were already under 260 feet of ice, and under "many hundreds" of ice layers.

  I need more proof that each ice layer in a core sample takes an entire year to form, especially in light of these images and facts surrounding the lost Squadron.