WT studied by all congregations 4th Feb 2018.

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  • skin
    skin
    From the WT dated Dec 2017 - study 1 para 11 studied by all congregations 4th Feb 2018.

    The Question asked on this paragraph is:

    ”11. What did the physician Luke report happened to a young man, and how did that affect others?”

    Paragraph 11 in this WT reads:

    “11 Others became eyewitnesses to another resurrection. One time, the apostle Paul was at a meeting in an upper room in Troas, in what is now northwest Turkey. Paul spoke till midnight. A young man named Eutychus was listening, seated at a window. But he dozed off and fell from the third story to the ground below. Perhaps the physician Luke was the first to reach Eutychus, and Luke made a medical assessment: Eutychus was not merely injured and unconscious​—he was dead! Paul came downstairs and embraced the corpse, and then he made the dramatic announcement: “He is alive.” What a profound impact that would have had on eyewitnesses! Knowing the facts and grasping that a resurrection had occurred, they “were comforted beyond measure.”​—Acts 20:7-12.”

    Now read the WT question again: “What did the physician Luke report happened to a young man, and how did that affect others?”

    Was Luke really there? Where does Bible say or infer that Luke was in attendance with Paul that evening, to be able to make that medical assessment on Eutychus?. Was it because Luke wrote the book of Acts, meaning that he must have been an eye witness to every event that is recorded in Acts? and if so, how do we know that he was the first to reach Eutychus after he fell?

  • days of future passed
    days of future passed

    The Word Perhaps makes it True! Perhaps the Physician Luke was the first to reach Eutychus......

    It would be fun to search how many times that word is used to make new light true! Or anything else for that matter.

    used to express uncertainty or possibility.
    synonyms:maybe, for all one knows, it could be, it may be, it's possible, possibly, conceivably;
  • smiddy3
    smiddy3

    Just a thought that occurred to me and I could be wrong and feel free to correct me if I am but doesn`t the word "window" imply that it has a pane of glass in it ?

    Did they have glass windows in Jesus day ? did Eutychus crash through it ?or was it an open window ?

  • Are you serious
    Are you serious
    Another case of WT making up imaginary light. Hey who knew that by throwing in the word "perhaps" you have a fact.
  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I remember the last November broadcast, claiming how proud they are about " accuracy of statement " and that everything was doublechecked to make sure it was correct.....I do not see that here. !

    It is notable too how they treat Luke as if he were a modern doctor with modern medical knowledge. In this case, if he were there at the time , did he pull out a stethoscope and listen for a heartbeat? I cannot comment on the amount of medical knowledge known at that time, but it sure was not what we have today. ...

  • jwleaks
    jwleaks

    Perhaps Luke himself in Luke 1:3 contradicts the Watchtower's new interpretation of Luke's involvement in declaring Eutychus dead. Perhaps.

  • fastJehu
    fastJehu

    @ Skin

    Thanks for your analysis. But consider this:

    Lucas as writer reports that he was present at this event (according to the JW bible):

    Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to have a meal, ...

    And the question for § 11:

    11. What did the physician Luke report happened to a young man

    I interpret the question as follows: what did Luke report in Acts 20:7-12 about the young man.

    But:

    Some Bible translations do not have the word "we", but "the disciples" instead.

    The Interlinear-Translation shows the word "we" - so the JWs are not necessarily wrong at this point.

    ... and if so, how do we know that he was the first to reach Eutychus after he fell?

    Nobody knows. Therefore the § reads:

    ... Perhaps the physician Luke was the first to reach Eutychus, and Luke made a medical assessment: Eutychus was not merely injured and unconscious​—he was dead!...

    We all know this is pure speculation. And that in the brave sheep's minds this should be taken up as fact.

    Have a nice sunday and best wishes from germany

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Brilliant thread, and excellent observations Skin!

    Yet another example of the WT "adding to the bible"

  • freddo
    freddo

    stuck - At first reading I agree - but fastJehu's angle does give them wriggle room.

  • Fred Franztone
    Fred Franztone

    I like how they emphasise the fact that he was a physician (which in those days was little more than voodoo) so as to give his account more weight.

    Appeal to authority.

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