Something that may have been overlooked by the Australian Royal Commission

by Listener 10 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  Listener

  I was reading a post made by a female JW on another forum that was answering a question regarding under age baptism and underage girls speaking to elders regarding sexual matters. Her answer was sickening and it got me wondering whether the RC has overlooked a very serious problem.
  This is a link to her commentshttp://en.allexperts.com/q/Jehovah-s-Witness-1617/2015/8/baptism-1919.htm
  Did the RC ask for a list of victims or underage persons who had been subjected to a Judicial Committee?
  Given that there is a practice of baptising children and young teenagers, I don't doubt that a number of them would have been subjected to their own JC in regards to sexual issues. We have even heard of cases where young females have been raped but have been found guilty of fornication after a JC.
  The only files given to the RC was those of perpetrators.
  The Watchtower would have kept records of underage persons who have been subject to a JC in relation to sexual matters. There was a mention of sexting occuring and without a doubt, if that young person was baptised they would have been subject to a JC.
  Do you think this may have been overlooked and if so, is it worth bringing to the attention of the RC?
  
  
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  the girl next door

  There are a handful of cases being handled by abuse attorneys for JW/former JW victims when elements like this are part of the case. In one California case involving a minor, a video was made of the sexual abuse and shared with the BOE. A police report was never made and in litigation those elders now face criminal charges of viewing child pornography.

  I would suspect that with the number of advocates working with the ARC regarding CSA that these issues and scenarios have been thoroughly covered. The ARC may have and most likely did come across these scenarios during the depositions of thousands of victim/survivors.

  Nonetheless, good point and good thinking. I will pass along your sentiments to those I know directly working with the ARC.
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  DATA-DOG

  BARF!!! To hear Sister T babble about the laws of the land is disgusting. Anyway, you could PM Umbertoecho and perhaps you will get an answer?

  DD
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  Listener

  Thanks TheGirlNextDoor, much appreciated.
  Sister T does not do her organisation any favours. Just reading some of her posts would scare away any potential JWs.
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  zeb

  This 'sister T' has no idea of the influence and the pressure put on r& f jw's particularly the young or is so callous as to disregard it.

  But the Google address of the ARC is'

  Royal Commission into institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.

  The site says the submissions for jehovahs witnesses have been published, but the rc also gave the wt some months to come up with new policies on child abuse so any new info would be worth sending on to them.
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  Vidiot

  the girl next door - "...In one California case involving a minor, a video was made of the sexual abuse and shared with the BOE. A police report was never made and in litigation those elders now face criminal charges of viewing child pornography..."

  Ah, but no worries... the Society's Legal Dept. has got their back...

  x

  

  Is it just me, or does anyone else think elders are getting progressively stupider?

  I swear, sometimes I think the WTS is doomed to collapse purely due to the hopeless dumbassedness of its grassroots-level leadership...
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  Sabin

  If a child is subjected to watching porn the brain is psychologically traumatized in such a way that it is as if the child were being literally abused, so if that is the case then i would say it stands to reason that a child or even a young adult is being subjected to a JC & being forced/coerced to give explicit details of a sexual nature that could lead to there being ostracized from friends & family then yes it is psychological sexual abuse. What is also shocking is that a large number of elders actually believe it is their RIGHT to know these details. Their RIGHT. Now just where did they get that idea from. Certainly not the bible. When i was in my late 20's & went to my JC about reinstatement my husband, bless him just would not allow me to be on my own with 3 men. When our daughter went to her JC my husband went with her, when she was asked overly personal details that made her uncomfortable she told them "it's not your business to ask me that." As far as i'm concerned they still went over the line, thank God hubby wasn't in the same room (which was our daughters choice) he would have punched them on the bloody nose. The Borg takes the right's of the parents away, & to many of them allow it. Yes i think maybe the ARC has thought of these things, but i also think that they have so many people who are JW's contacting them now with issues that it will take years to get through all the info. Lets be honest, on this issue the GB have made the pope look like a saint.
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  stuckinarut2

  Wow Sabin! Sounds like you guys experienced some very inappropriate behaviour!

  Yes, this thread raises a very good point! It is completely inappropriate and illegal for adults to interrogate under aged children with topics of a sexual nature! Especially 3 men in a closed room! Extremely inappropriate.
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  Sabin

  Stuckin, my husband isn't a witness so he has a different mind set. That's the biggest reason they are being so careful with me now. He is the nicest guy you could ever wish to meet, these bastards have pushed all his wrong buttons. Yesterday we were doing the garden he told me in no uncertain terms if they come down the path i'm to go in & shut the door, he would be dealing with them. He wont put up with no shit from them.
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  stuckinarut2

  Good! He is a gem!