No Time to die. (page 2)

mickbobcat

If they kill off the franchise fine, but if they replace bond with some woke version I will not even torrent the crap. My money does not ever go to Hollyweird.

StephaneLaliberte

Not really, he's a 1950's British naval officer ... which means he's a white man.

If you want to keep Bond in the 1950s, then the gadgets, the cars, the weapons, everything has to represent the 1950s.

If Bond lives in a modern 2021 world, than, yes, he could literally be any race as this could be the case with British naval officers today.

What matters is that he's 1) British and 2) a man.

If he's black and they shift the narrative of the story around his race, than I agree. That would be problematic. The bond character is about fighting evil with class, alcohol, women, cars and gadgets. As long as the race of Bond himself is irrelevant to the story, than the actor that portrays him can be any race.

mickbobcat

Stephen, Nope.

asp59

Bond is British and white that's it. Superman is heterosexual not bisexual. If you wanna create new super hero or spy then go ahead. Make them gay, bi, blue or what ever you want. Just let the old one's be as they are.

Simon

If bond can be black then Mathew Macconaughey can be Martin Luther King.

Exactly. They should remake Roots, but with an all white or asian cast.

Ooh, edgy ... but can you imagine the screaming that would happen?!

Half the country is so thick they'd probably believe that's was history.

StephaneLaliberte

Bond is British and white that's it. Superman is heterosexual not bisexual.

I agree that superman is heterosexual as it is part of his character arc. He is in love with Louis Lane he's demeaner around women has everything to do with his sexuality. If you change the sexual orientation, you also need to change the character.

They should remake Roots, but with an all white or asian cast.

Root is about a black slave. the entire story is about the color of his skin and origin from africa as this is the very reason he is a slave in the first place. The character arc is dependant on the color of his skin.

So, I'm asking: What character trait or story is dependant on Bond being white? this is an honest question. I guess there could be something, I'm just wondering what?

Simon

Root is about a black slave. the entire story is about the color of his skin and origin from africa as this is the very reason he is a slave in the first place. The character arc is dependant on the color of his skin.

Well, it could be a modern social commentary highlighting how modern-day racism targets whites.

But if the slaves were all black (they weren't) then the non-slaves must have been non-black, right? So programmes where all the aristocrats are cast as black characters are equally wrong and unrealistic, right?

So, I'm asking: What character trait or story is dependant on Bond being white? this is an honest question. I guess there could be something, I'm just wondering what?

To be believable, he has to be white. He wouldn't be in the social circles / position he was at the time if black.

Why couldn't Harry Potter be a Chinese girl? Because he wasn't written that way, and why should he be?

Gorb

First half of NTTD was good, second half from the point of the forrest to the end credits are not worth my time.

It seems halfway the production something happened that killed the movie.

G.

Justaguy

I will accept black bond when there is a white shaft.

Disillusioned JW

"Roots" (not "Root") is also based upon an actual person (Kunta Kinte) who was an ancestor of Alex Haley (or at least, Alex Haley believed and claimed that his sources for the origins of Kinte were oral family tradition and that Kunta Kinte was a real ancestor of his - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunta_Kinte , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots:_The_Saga_of_an_American_Family, and the sequel to the original Roots TV series [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots:_The_Next_Generations ]). However, both the novel and the miniseries which were based upon it do include fictional content.

I watched the original 1977 miniseries and its sequel from 1979. I also read the entire novel they were based upon, at least 15 years before I read even one entire book (other than perhaps a very short one) of the 'Holy' Bible. Other than the Bible, Roots is by far the longest book I have ever read.

The "Roots" TV miniseries made an intense impression upon me of the evils of slavery, especially as it was practiced in many states of the USA and later in the Confederacy. The 1979 sequel made an intense impression upon me of the evils of the Jim Crow policies which were practiced in the former slave states of the USA.

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