Hecce The quality of the sites in Spanish in facebook as in Google+, is not surpassed by any English group, it is, the scope is much greater, since it is social networks with many more followers than the particular blogs.
Sad news from the Spanish Front
by Hecce 46 Replies latest jw friends
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David Blanco
What they say that WT grows in the Hispanic languages is a mistake, in which the sites of these networks in both scope and quality are better than those of English-speaking
Http: // jamesmacarthurll.blogspot.com.es/2014/09/cual -es-la-religion-verdadera.html
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steve2
"There is a big difference between that type of operation and just getting together to repeat constantly that the Watchtower is "bad"."
Probably not intended, Hecce, but this does seem like an exaggeration, if not a judgement about what happens on discussion forums. And, as stated, I appreciate you may not have intended it that way.
As you would know, new posters appear on a weekly basis and other posters are able to welcome them and provide reassurance, information and lots of empathy. Even "older" posters like me don't constantly repeat that the organization is bad; instead we have thoughtful and often challenging exchanges about different topics. Besides, every poster is different and has different needs. For many, it is just knowing that if they post, others will see it and respond...and more than likely understand and, if needed, provided suggestions and so on.
So, whether it's a blog site or a forum, both have their uses - one is not better than the other: they serve different purposes.
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Simon
3 Gbps is quite more than I anticipated. For this type of content? That tells me there are plenty of lurkers who do not post, and I mean PLENTY. Unless I am missing something. Most videos are youtube hosted so I would think they do not count towards your traffic, do they?
Correct, videos are loaded from YouTube and images go through a different path and can be CDN cached because they are immutable. The vast majority of views is for topic pages followed by the subject listing views (messages etc... are negligible really). Fortunately, these compress pretty well which saves a lot of bandwidth nowadays.
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Hecce
Steve
exaggeration, if not a judgementNone of that, just the truth in regards to the subject matter that was the recent demise of Spanish Forums.
Now if you want to talk about exaggeration and judgement, look at what this newcomer is saying when comparing Spanish Forums with the English ones:
What they say that WT grows in the Hispanic languages is a mistake, in which the sites of these networks in both scope and quality are better than those of English-speaking
Hecce The quality of the sites in Spanish in facebook as in Google+, is not surpassed by any English group, it is, the scope is much greater, since it is social networks with many more followers than the particular blogs.
I visited the sites that he suggested and I was not impressed at all, I invite our Spanish speaking friends to go in and give their opinion about the high quality of those places. I didn't answer him because I was not interested in any confrontation, I answering your post due to the respect that I have for you.
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Hecce
One comment that might be a repetition of the obvious is that it is a thankless job being a Forum administrator. Not too many people have the skills and character to succeed.
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ILoveTTATT2
Hi,
I've been highly involved in the Spanish exJW community for some time, and we absolutely need a forum!!
The closest thing to a forum right now is the groups on Facebook.
In terms of QUALITY websites, the absolute best imho is jwfacts.Therefore, jwfacts IS being translated into Spanish.
If you want to check it out, go to www.verdadtj.com
The goal is to finish translating it (there are over 100 articles about 20 pages long each) by 2019.
I am on track, as I am translating an article per week, and have been on track for the past 4 weeks. -
Hecce
ILoveTTATT2
Impressive, thanks for sharing. I didn't knew this site.
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StarTrekAngel
Well I stand corrected. Kind of... I can definitely see some quality work there. I will take some time to read thru before I pass any further comments. I am not only referring to the quality of the content but the quality of journalism as well. Needless to say that any effort in bringing the truth forth is something I will applaud publicly but maybe criticize privately in places like here. Here are my point of contention
- The quality of journalism. I understand this is not something that comes about naturally, specially when this sort of thing would require you to put significant amounts of time towards it. Research, travel, reaching out to specialists or other media outlets.
- The difference between a news oriented site and a more analytical site. For example, the difference between jwsurvey and jwfacts. Both are required to be well thought out and presented in a way that makes for an easy read.
- The last and to me the most important, which was exalted by the first paragraph of this jwsurvey article (http://jwsurvey.org/news/news-article-sheds-light-on-watchtower-abuses-in-spain) is that we need more interaction between the different communities. Usually the major divide would occur between the English and Spanish JW communities due to the language barrier. We need a good way to bridge that divide. Usually, English readers would concentrate on English material only. Naturally so but while English is widely spoken worldview and a great crowd (sorry for the WT label) can be reached, we are in sort of a niche. We keep throwing arrows at this enemy that is obviously dwindling in the English field. We get plenty of information that not only is easy to read because it is on our language, but because we also understand the system in which the leadership plays. When it comes to the Spanish field, a lot may be getting lost in translation. In this field the WT enjoys the advantage that the people are not only disconnected by language, but also disconnected in understanding. If I go to a JW in Latin America and I show them paperwork regarding, for example, the Rilley fund, they may initially understand what it means but they will be easy to confuse by a refutal from the other side if the people don't understand how the American financial system works.
All of the above is meant to be a comment on whether there is a way we can better support ex-JWs in other languages. It is never meant to say they are ignorant. I am sure they understand their own issues better we ever could (I include myself because even though I am from SA, I was never a JW there). The idea is to bring forth the possibility that we could support the ex-JW community in other parts of the world with the ease of access and experience that we have in this side of the divide.
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ILoveTTATT2
STA,
Your comments are valid. This is why, if necessary, I change the articles a bit to reflect the situation in the hispanic world, and/or I explain in a lot more detail what is going on.