Key to some universal truths—Queen Jezebel has it!

venus

Even wicked queen Jezebel knew ‘what is good and what is bad’ because she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.” (1 King 21:10). From her comment the following universal truths can be discerned:

1) Everyone is endowed with the knowledge of good and bad, which makes God’s communication with humans unnecessary.

2) God is required to fine-tune the earth to make it congenial for life and for its enjoyment; but God is not required to be a distributor of those resources because humans who are endowed with knowledge of good and bad must of necessity know how to make a fair distribution of what is given to them.

3) People may act according to their knowledge or not—that is their choice. For example, many countries feel they cannot live without war thus makes wastage of unimaginable proportion whereas many countries (more than 10 countries) know that they can live without war and have never partaken in any war, which means even good example of some countries has no effect on other countries just like good individuals have no effect on others.

4) Those who want any guidance should seek it in the vast ocean of experience (own or of others)

Drearyweather

she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.”

Correct. And then by her works proved that she was good-for-nothing too.

venus

Drearyweather

Whether she proved good-for-nothing is different matter.

What is important is that even she knew what is good and what is bad

smiddy3

many countries (more than 10 countries) know that they can live without war and have never partaken in any war,

I don`t suppose it`s because they have never been threatened of being invaded and taken over by a foreign power would it ?

Otherwise it might have been a totally different story.

Isn`t that a universal truth ?

venus

smiddy3

The point I wanted to highlight was that what is found practical by some may not be viewed so by others--its technicality matters not.

When a temptress (very beautiful young lady) approached Bhuddha, he addressed her "Mother, what can I do for you?" which turned her into his disciple. What is found possible by Buddha may not be viewed so by others. But that is not what matters. If it is possible for some, then it is possible for others too if they want.

Drearyweather

What is important is that even she knew what is good and what is bad

I know what you are trying to say. I was simply emphasizing the fact that socially acceptable application of the universal truth is more important than its possession.

Babies as small as six months old can discern the difference between a good nurse and bad one. Same applies to animals too, wherein, a dog knows whom to bite, whom to bark and before whom to wag its tail.

This ability can be called as discernment or an unlearned ability wherein, conscious beings learn good and bad due to an inbuilt instinct to survive. Individually, each person has a choice to do good or bad, however, socially, the law of the land decides what is good and acceptable, and what is bad and not acceptable, and hence there is a set of laws that decides what is good and bad, and this usually trumps individuals choice.

Whether we need God's guidance is left to an individual's choice. But socially, each person is bound by the secular law which validates what is good and what is bad.

cofty

God is required to fine-tune the earth to make it congenial for life and for its enjoyment

Then he failed miserably.

The OP is based on a pathetically naive view of the natural world.

venus

Drearyweather

You nicely expanded what I left unuttered. Example of babies and dogs is really illuminating. What is observed is that everyone knows what is right and wrong—yet degree of implementation varies from person to person which makes God’s communication unnecessary. Religious leaders spoke against ego as the root cause of all human problems; yet after their death, followers continued with their ego and its divisive tendency. Germany remained divided as East Germany and West Germany for 44 years, and then showed the example of reunion; yet this good example has no effect on other countries (such as North Korea & South Korea; India & Pakistan …) who still remain divided at a very great cost to themselves. A few countries (such as Switzerland) have never taken part in any war, yet this good example has no effect on other countries. At least 108 million people were killed and many others suffered other losses in various wars in the twentieth century alone. (http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books/chapters/what-every-person-should-know-about-war.html) And there were 263 wars fought in just 116 years from 1900 A.D. (http://www.war-memorial.net/wars_all.asp).

Hence, Jezebel is a symbol of all those who know what is right and do not act accordingly.

venus

Cofty,

It is not God's failure, but His confidence in humans who have the ability to make earth a paradise again if only they avoid all the wastages. Some part of the earth is already paradise and devoid of any war which means if humans want, they can make the whole earth paradise again.

cofty

Venus - You live in LaLa land.

Key to some universal truths—Queen Jezebel has it!

Share this