OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

by Terry 98 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister
    T typeology: "Leviticus 25:13 “In the year of this jubilee ye shall return every man unto his possession.” (17) “Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God.”
    The object of the year of Jubilee was liberty and to break all oppression. The Jubilee was a type or forerunner of what it would be under the reign of King Messiah. The Jubilee was to set the stage for the coming of King Messiah as His reign would be one continual Jubilee. All oppression would end under His rule. Justice and truth would reign."

    You know this law was meant only for other Jews, who, by the way, were actually all cousins according to their own theology...slavery within the family no less. Horrible.
  • myelaine
    myelaine

    dear Terry...

    The gospel of john was a personal account of Jesus...the revelation to john is was he was told to write as he was seeing it in a vision. The revelation is a book that portrays the final battle between good and evil. The harshness expressed in it is to be expected for such an epic battle.

    We are faced with the vision of two "camps": God's and satans. Until satan and his angels are cast to earth they are still heavenly principalities.(Ephesians 6:12) Once they are cast to the earth there is even more woe to the earth and to the sea. What is described as vindictive is Jesus ridding the earth of those who are in opposition to His righteous reign. Jesus literally supports PEOPLE (rev 6:10) who have been slaughtered by those who are in opposition to His righteous reign. The tribulation is satanic/demonic it is initiated against "good". The wrath of God is initiated against "evil".

    As far as the dating of the book of revelation, in the following link mark hitchcock presents external evidence for an AD 95 date based on EARLY written testimony refering to the time and event of the revelation when john was on the island of patmos. that testimony refers to john being on the island during the reign of emperor domician. @ 24-26 minute mark.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b6FOx_4wujg

    love michelle

  • cofty
    cofty
    moses represented the IMPERFECT people..God called them "your" people. (as mediator) moses was also an IMPERFECT representative of God to his people.- myelaine

    Moses conveyed messages from god. Lev.25 is a transcript of Yahweh/Jesus' instructions to take possession of slaves from people of the nations. The instructions to commit infanticide was spoken in god's name.

    God did not correct Moses for speaking these things in his name. Jesus praised Moses. In Heb.11 praises Moses and the genocidal armies of Joshua.

    The god of the OT was a moral monster. Therefore Jesus is a moral retard.

  • myelaine
    myelaine
    cofty...

    from the very beginning moses was positioned to speak to the people WITH the authority of God...not AS the authority of God.

    It is my understanding that all the israelite kings and priests were positioned to speak/act WITH the authority of God not AS the authority of God. (it is also my understanding that the only ones who were given the position to speak AS the authority of God were the judges in that they held the life or death of a man in their hands)

    At the time of Jesus the pharisees were speaking WITH the authority of God and AS the authority of God...Jesus berated them publicly in His capacity as king, priest and judge.

    Hebrews 11:24-29 is speaking exclusively about the faith of moses there is NO critique of the law or morality of the hebrews.

    The hebrews/israel AND the entirety of the law were set forth (we are told) as an example of the depravity of the nature of fallen man in CONTRAST to the Holy God.


  • cofty
    cofty
    moses was positioned to speak to the people WITH the authority of God...not AS the authority of God.

    Gibberish, prevarication and obfuscation.

    I love it when christians try to wriggle out of inconvenient facts. It makes your religion look so pathetic.

    You have just rejected the authority of the entire OT. You have made Jesus sad.

    According to you not one single word in the entire OT where is attributes dialogue to god is authentic. In other words Moses was a liar and fraud and false prophet.

    Keep talking - it's all falling apart.

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    cofty...

    I didn't say the OT wasn't authentic and moses, speaking WITH the authority of God, extends to the jews TO THIS DAY. Your reading comprehension sucks.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Moses wrote that god says..... lots of stuff. He quotes god word for word throughout the pentateuch.

    Those words include instructions to take slaves and treat them like chattel.

    Either Moses was a liar and false prophet or he quoted god accurately.

    If the former then Jesus was a fool - if the latter then god/Jesus is a moral monster.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    Myelaine, your rather sad typical theist excuses for the deity you choose to worship is summed up by this;

  • myelaine
    myelaine

    cofty says...

    "Moses wrote that god says..... lots of stuff. He quotes god word for word throughout the pentateuch"...

    actually, if you read the text it sounds like someone is quoting moses(speaking WITH the authority of God)...the phrase used is, "and the LORD spoke to moses..." not..."and the LORD spoke to 'me'"...

    just sayin'

  • OneGenTwoGroups
    OneGenTwoGroups

    Yeah Cofty, quit quoting Moses. Yahweh would never endorse let alone tolerate genocide, misogyny, infanticide, polygamy, slavery, forced marriage/rape and so on. Yahweh was all about showing the love to everyone, everywhere.

    Who wrote the story about Yahweh drowning innocent children during a worldwide flood? Moses! You're so busted Cofty, BIG TIME. As Sye Ten Bruggencate would say, "You're done, you're finished."

    Next you'll be claiming that Yahweh endorsed abortion by high priests using dirt off the tabernacle floor mixed with water.

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