Look its real simple. Hollyweird and the leftist idiots tell us gun owners all the time that we need safety classes and licenses to own a gun and keep it in a safe ect. Why the fuck does Hollyweird or California not have a rule or law that on set there is to be no live ammo on the set period and if they have to have it for any reason, there needs to be two firearms prop-masters that only do firearms and are licensed by the gov and a special permit is issued. I get real guns are used with blanks to make it realistic. But heck I have been around guns for 50 years plus and some air soft guns make me take a few looks to now that they are not real. So why not make quality high end copies of real guns for the movies for non firing and others that fire special blanks that will not take real bullets. A whole new industry and jobs would pop up. Or expand existing business. Hollyweird needs to put their money where their mouth is.
Alec Baldwin Shot a Woman Dead
by Simon 55 Replies latest social current
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mickbobcat
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Simon
Hollyweird and the leftist idiots tell us gun owners all the time that we need safety classes and licenses to own a gun and keep it in a safe ect.
No, they say that guns should be banned and no one should have them. By no-one, they mean you, because they have armed guards. Then they play pretend-shootouts and produce endless movies and TV shows glorifying shooting and criminality while criticizing police if they ever shoot anyone even if they are being shot at.
There is no reason Hollywood couldn't have 100% safe guns, other than $$$
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Simon
I wonder if SNL will do comedy about it, y'know, like when Cheney accidentally shot someone?
As for the facts, we don't know them all yet but we do know that we won't be told the entire story and will likely be told some mistruths. People do employ publicists after all who's job it is to "make me look good" and I think handling bad PR is part of that.
As an example of things I think don't make sense I've seen one report that someone said "cold gun" when handing it to him and another that Baldwin said "why did someone give me a hot gun?". It just feels like an odd response, wouldn't it be "why did you tell me it was cold?" or 'that wasn't a cold gun!".
Incidentally, the claim is that he was handed the gun by an assistant director and told it was cold. I would question whether that constitutes any form of safety protocol - surely the point of having someone responsible for the firearms is for that to be their job? Safety protocols only work if people follow them, and if they don't then that is negligence.
Anyway, how about a joke to lighten the mood?
Hilary Clinton, Dick Cheney and Alec Baldwin go hunting ... what happens there?!
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MeanMrMustard
Alec Baldwin, 68 years old and still not shooting blanks.
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Anony Mous
@Simon: there are a lot of things that don’t make sense about the story. Directors don’t hand over guns, armorers do. Armorers require 2 people, 1 licensed and 1 assistant that check the gun for whatever is loaded, neither were on set. It seems to have been a live bullet in a real gun, there were multiple guns. Anyone that has ever worked with real guns knows you don’t just pull the trigger without checking, even if you are alone at a range.
A lot of safety went out of the window to get this movie going. Greed, incompetence and disregards for the “hourly” employees, that kind of paints the entire left wing today.
The fact the investigation isn’t just returning with the facts means things went awfully wrong to get to that point.
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JeffT
I grew up around guns. My father was an avid outdoorsman, if it wasn't hunting season the only thing that kept us off the range some days was fishing.
I learned at a very young that there was no such thing as an unloaded gun, and you never ever pointed a gun at something unless you wanted to shoot it. To this day I can not touch a gun without checking the chamber, and even if I just checked it, the muzzle is always pointed at the ground.
The question here is: were these people attacking Mr. Baldwin? If yes then he can claim self-defense. If he was holding a gun that discharged and killed some one, he should be charged with negligent homicide. There may be some defense to that, I don't know what it would be.
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MeanMrMustard
@Jeff: I don't think anyone was attacking him. It is a movie set, and for a lot of scenes, you have to point the gun toward the camera (to catch the scene). I think the cinematographer was behind the camera.
NOTE: I could be completely wrong about that - it's just that the facts of the situation aren't really out yet, only drippings of things (like the above), which could turn out to be incorrect eventually.
There are lawyers out there saying Baldwin should shut up and start to think more like a defendant.
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MeanMrMustard
Perspective: Officially Alec Baldwin has killed more people than all of the January 6th rioters combined.