Child pornography should NOT be automatically handled by a judicial committee

by pistolpete 18 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    No, it shouldn't be handled by a judicial committee. It should be handled by the police, and preferably tracking where it came from so those who uploaded it in the first place can be punished to the hilt. And if the person downloaded it on purpose (as opposed to being stung with it while looking for regular porn, or as the result of malware), they need to be punished for that, as well.

    Strong counsel is not good enough here--we are not looking at a mere "sin", as would be with regular porn. This is a crime--and those producing and uploading it need to be shut down and the leaders of these operations issued the death penalty. (And no babbling about being humane for these scum--we are talking about sexual enslavement, not measly property damage). We torture mice with glue traps (who are guilty of nothing more than property damage), why should we be any more humane with those scum that exploit children? And, if you shut down that, you dry up the kiddie porn from the internet because, if it doesn't happen, it can't very well be downloaded.

  • GrreatTeacher
    GrreatTeacher

    Yes, call Legal.

    Disgusting.

    I'm a mandated reporter. That means I must make the report myself. I can tell the guidance counselor or principal, but I have to make an official report myself, regardless of what they say.

    I don't know how those elders justify it to themselves when Legal says not to report and they follow that bad advice.

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    " shouldn’t the elders be calling the cops?" Viewing child porn is not illegal. Knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute or mails is illegal.

  • Listener
    Listener

    Rattigan350 I just googled to find out whether it is or not and a legal firm has this to say

    The Answer: Googling the term "child pornography" is not illegal, but viewing or possessing any images or depictions of children in sexual situations is illegal. ... After all, possessing or viewing those types of images is illegal in all 50 states and federally, so they do not allow criminal activity as searchable.2 June 2021

    Another website (Stop it Now) has this to say

    As the sexual abuse of a child is illegal, any image depicting this is an image of a crime being committed. Watching child pornography is a crime. Everytime your brother watches child pornography, he is committing a crime. In essence, two crimes are being committed at the same time - a child being sexually abused and watching a child being sexually abused. Additionally, when child pornography is watched, it creates a demand for images of children being sexually abused and hence, more children are at risk for being sexually abused by the people who make these images.

    I would also add that child sexual abuse can also occur without touching a child. Non-touching child sex abuse does include watching child pornography. A woman who was sexually abused as a child and the abuse was filmed, stated that she feels violated time and time again whenever she thinks about these films being passed around. So, to be clear, viewing child pornography is absolutely child sexual abuse. For further information, please read defining child sexual abuse and defining child pornography.

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    Listener, why are you quoting websites.

    18 U.S.C. § 1466A (2018)

    (a) In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, or attempts or conspires to do so

    (b) Additional Offenses.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind

    Does not say viewing. but it might be presumed that viewing would include possessing. Someone could view without doing those things mentioned above.

    (e) Affirmative Defense.—It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (b) that the defendant—

    (1) possessed less than 3 such visual depictions; and

    (2) promptly and in good faith, and without retaining or allowing any person, other than a law enforcement agency, to access any such visual depiction—

    (A) took reasonable steps to destroy each such visual depiction; or

    (B) reported the matter to a law enforcement agency and afforded that agency access to each such visual depiction.



  • hoser
    hoser

    Not everyone in this group lives in the US. I would think other countries have their own laws.

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    hoser : I would think other countries have their own laws.

    Correct. Wikipedia shows legal/illegal status by country.

    In the UK all forms of child pornography (real or fictional) including possession is illegal. This includes real and fictional "indecent pseudo-photographs of a child", who is defined as anyone under the age of 18. The argument that you can legally view child porn on the internet without downloading it is a fiction because the action of viewing it automatically downloads it and you are guilty of possession while it remains there. Just don't do it.

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    I love children. Thinking of doing sexual things to them is repugnant.

    As for viewing porn, everyone has or is lying. And nothing like being an observer in a participant sport.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    hoser - "When the authorities start throwing governing body members in jail they will cry persecution."

    'Course they will.

    Getting anyone but the small percentage of hardcore Lifers to really believe it is another thing, though.

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