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honest

I was born into this religion ( cult) I can tell you this is not a isolated incidence. jehovahs witnesses are a high control group, your life is ruled by them. There is no allowance for individuality or individual circumstances. It's a one size fit all and if you deviate you are punished.

I have seen it all. From child abuse cover ups, markings, disfellowshipping for questioning or disagreeing, family break ups, children dying and kidnapped from hospitals to avoid blood transfusions ( in the 80s), false prophecies and pure lying.

As a honest person who values truth and justice I could no longer support this evil cult that forces families to shunn their own blood and encourage conditional friendships, I left and allowed my natural instincts to take over.

I think you are coming to that realisation that this organisation is unjust. I have seen so many good jw's come to this realisation and left the organisation. When something smells rotten it usually is rotten.

I encourage you to research what is supposedly Jehovahs organisation has done in regards to child abuse. How they really take care of their victims 😉 see if it is in line with your instincts.

You also need to separate religion from God. I notice that you imply this organisation to be representing Jehovah God. These are assumptions and also a very elitist view ( no fault of your own as watchtower drums this arrogance view into its members)

Jehovahs witnesses do not have a monopoly on God nor are they the one true religion ("the truth") after all if they have lied and falsely prophesied countless times through out their 140 year history I doubt they are the truth.

I wish you well and hope you truly research with out rose spectacles and be honest to yourself and those you love.

Ps clear your browser history everytime after you visit here. We have had many on here that were being spied on and were caught and then punished for visiting this site. Please be careful....

Pps be a true unconditional friend. Your friend will be feeling humiliated, degraded, ashamed and lonely. An act of loving kindness can save someone.

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/exhibits/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-27/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sexual-abuse-royal-commission/6649340

Jwfacts.com

ToesUp

"this is my first experience of hypocrisy in the truth."

Hold on to your hat...it WILL NOT be your last. Hypocrisy is what lead our family out of what you call "the truth."

I hate to be harsh but sorry, it's just my way. If they screw you over once they have not qualms about doing it again.

This is a hateful cult you have joined. If you don't believe me, just stop attending. They will drop you like a bad habit. Nice people, but only if you tow the JW line.

Best advise I can give you is .....RUN LIKE HELL!

Village Idiot

Hi there! Welcome.

You can expect more of their "one dimensional" type of thinking. That should be a reason for you to fade out.

Ding

Welcome!

millie210

Hi Danni and welcome!

I personally think "marking" is very antiquated and on its way out.

It seems to be falling out of vogue where I am. It just simply isnt done anymore. Perhaps the fact that some regions no longer even make use of that procedure is a good sign. At least I hope so!

smiddy

Hi , danni Jackson , I hope thats not your real name as you will be outed for coming onto a site like this and heaved into a JC hearing before you can say "What did I do wrong ?"

However ,Welcome to you for coming here and hopefully you will stick around as their are some very interesting discussions that take place here with valuable information from some very learned friends and in my case not so learned .

First lesson learned is :,The love JW`s show is conditional love ,it only lasts while you show interest in the JW religion , and if you are baptised and fall away ,or even start questioning the Elders or the GB or the F&DS ,you will be dropped like a hot potato, and shunned

Tread carefully my friend ,and take care.

Half banana

Hi Danni, thanks for visiting here, you are most welcome.

The love JW`s show is conditional love

as Smiddy says above. It only appears like "love" if you praise the governing body...the slightest whiff of disagreement and you will be unlovingly be cast out out on your ear.

Real life outside the org has problems as well but there is no hypocrisy like religious hypocrisy.

Honest said,

be a true unconditional friend. Your friend will be feeling humiliated, degraded, ashamed and lonely. An act of loving kindness can save someone.

That is real friendship

Tallon

Hello Danni Jackson

Welcome to the forum. Excellent advice has been given and to be honest I can't think of anything to add.

Just be there for your friend and offer as much support as you can to help him / her through his ordeal.

flipper

Danni- There is a lot of judgmental attitudes and hypocrisy within the Jehovah's Witness organization and you are just skimming the surface and seeing it for the first time. These attitudes start at the top with the governing body. Google on the Internet " Gilbert Campos Child abuse trial San Diego California " and you'll see how WT leaders have been hiding child abuse information from the courts and are being penalized by the courts for refusing to testify and supply needed child abuse information. You are sadly in a criminal organization and the sooner you research this and wake up to that fact- the sooner you'll be able to move on in your life and find real happiness. Take care, we're here as a support to you

DesirousOfChange

Welcome to this board!

Let me just make a couple comments:
1) If you used your real name here, it opens you up to "counsel" from your elders to leave here or you will be "reproved" and maybe disfellowshipped because this is seen as an "apostate" website. Send a private message to SIMON and ask him to change it.

2) There is a slight possibility that dating a worldly person can lead to DFing. However, it is a real possibility if that worldly person is not unmarried or legally divorced. Just being the subject of a "marking talk" means the person has already been "repeatedly counseled" about the "sin". Failure to heed repeated counsel can be construed as "brazen conduct" which is now the "catch-all" term when they want to DF someone but are short on a legitimate reason. A "marking talk" is one of the steps required to take DF action for "brazenly" ignoring counsel.

I don't want to discourage you, but most of us here have had bad experiences as JWs, and thus most of here are no longer JWs, or else are "faking it" or "fading" (easing out of the Organization in a way to avoid problems). The unreasonable amount of control that the JW Org tries to have on members is one of the most common reasons that people have left. They follow their own unwritten rules as though they were Gospel.

Glad you are here. Read the forum. Take what you want and leave the rest. . . . Doc

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