Evidence for a Young Earth (page 9)

kaik

It is amazing how the mineral deposits know how to grow slowly in caves but quickly in environments that contradict the naturalism ideology.

Because they are not the same minerals...

Perry

The process that creates stalactites and stalagmites is well understood

Then it should be easy for you to explain why they take "millions of years" to form in caves and just a few decades in basements.

Perry

While you are at it, maybe you could proffer an explanation on why dinosaur bones are still decomposing after "millions of years".

Once, when she was working with a T. rex skeleton harvested from Hell Creek, she noticed that the fossil exuded a distinctly organic odor. "It smelled just like one of the cadavers [dead bodies] we had in the lab who had been treated with chemotherapy before he died," she says. Given the conventional wisdom that such fossils were made up entirely of minerals, Schweitzer was anxious when mentioning this to Horner. "But he said, 'Oh, yeah, all Hell Creek bones smell,'" she says. To most old-line paleontologists, the smell of death didn't even register. - Discover Magazine

How can fragile blood vessels and cells still be intact after "millions of years"?

How can dinosaur DNA be detected when DNA has been proven to have a half life of only 521 years, meaning nothing could be detected after 100,000 yrs. at most?

Whether it is 65 or 380 "million years"; how can pourous limestone reveal:

intricate soft tissue structures in fossils, including the actual preserved brain of a 300 million-year-old fish from North America and actual muscle bundles attached to 380 million-year-old placoderm fishes from Australia. - Science Alert

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LisaRose

Then it should be easy for you to explain why they take "millions of years" to form in caves and just a few decades in basements.

I did, but I guess you didn't read the explanation. I will try again.

Limestone caves dissolves very slowly because limestone does not dissolve in water. There is a chemical interaction going on, only a tiny amount of calcium carbonate gets freed up from the limestone to form the stalagtites, it's a very slow process. In the case of cement, all that carbonate is already all freed up, so the stalagtites can form much, much faster. It is not the formation of the stalagtites per se that is slow, but the conversion of limestone to carbonate that takes a long time, and that process takes a set about of time.

Perry

In the case of cement, all that carbonate is already all freed up, so the stalagtites can form much, much faster.

But that is not the case at the monument. It is made of limesone quarried just six miles from a famous cave with identical formations.

Also, there was no concrete in the farmers field pipe that made the big teepee mound in wyoming.

LisaRose

How can dinosaur DNA be detected when DNA has been proven to have a half life of only 521 years, meaning nothing could be detected after 100,000 yrs. at most?

They have found Dino DNA in Ice cores, the ice preserves the DNA. The record is 500,000 years . How could you have raised this as an issue without at least looking to see a possible explanation?

Perry

They have also detected Dinosaur DNA in pourous limestone from the Hell Creek area in Montana.

LisaRose

But that is not the case at the monument. It is made of limesone quarried just six miles from a famous cave with identical formations.
Also, there was no concrete in the farmers field pipe that made the big teepee mound in wyoming.
Sounds like another "just so" explanation that doesn't add up.

Because you will never accept any explanation.

The stalagtites in the building could be from the mortar used in the building, water runs over the surface and picks it up and deposits it in the basement.

I assume the farmers field had minerals that had already dissolved somewhere, maybe in an underground cave. Some water forced it to the surface where it could quickly build up. The carbonate is already there, it just needed to be picked up by the water.

It doesn't matter because the point is that the process that takes time is the limestone naturally dissolving into carbonate to form the stalagtites. If the mineral is already dissolved, then stalagtites formation can be much faster. You can take limestone and manually crush it and add acids to dissolve it and form stalagtites quickly, but that just doesn't happen naturally in a cave, which is a set process that takes a set amount of time.

LisaRose

was working with a T. rex skeleton harvested from Hell Creek, she noticed that the fossil exuded a distinctly organic odor. "It smelled just like one of the cadavers [dead bodies] we had in the lab who had been treated with chemotherapy before he died," she says. Given the conventional wisdom that such fossils were made up entirely of minerals, Schweitzer was anxious when mentioning this to Horner. "But he said, 'Oh, yeah, all Hell Creek bones smell,'" she says. To most old-line paleontologists, the smell of death didn't even register. - Discover Magazine

I am not sure what point you are trying to make with the dinosaur DNA. Somebody claims some Dino bones somewhere had an odor? So what? What proof is there the odor was decay? We're they tested? Do you have a lab report showing tissue with DNA were found in a stalagtite cave believed to be 100,000 years old? Really it sounds like some kind of modern urban legend, "The Fossils That Had an Odor!"

You have just cut and pasted some things that prove nothing.

Perry

All Hell Creek Dinosaur bones smell like rotting corpses. That is what the scientists went on record as saying in Discover Magazine. Deal with it.

Here is a bat that became part of a cave formation before it could decompose. Apparently he didn't know about the "millions of years" theory.

Here's a lemonade bottle left in a cave in 1954. It certainly didn't take "millions of years" to get covered in minerals. No "just so" explanation for this.

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